IAF Not Interested in Land-Based Variant of TEDBF, Focusing on AMCA and Tejas MkII

IAF Not Interested in Land-Based Variant of TEDBF, Focusing on AMCA and Tejas MkII


The Indian Navy's vision for a new carrier-borne fighter jet, the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), seems to be encountering rough seas from the Indian Air Force (IAF). The IAF has reportedly shown little interest in the Navy's proposal for a land-based variant of the TEDBF, named the Omni-Role Combat Aircraft (ORCA).

Why the IAF Isn't on Board with ORCA​

According to a senior IAF official, developing the ORCA would be redundant. The IAF is already heavily invested in the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), a domestically manufactured 5th-generation fighter jet in the same weight class (around 25 tons) as the ORCA. The AMCA boasts features like stealth technology and advanced avionics, putting it at the forefront of modern fighter jet design.

The IAF has a clear roadmap for its fighter jet fleet. This includes inducting the lighter Tejas MkII fighters (around 17.5 tons) – 200 units are planned – followed by the more advanced AMCA with an estimated procurement of 200 units post-2033. Additionally, they're looking to acquire 97 Tejas Mk1A fighters, bringing their total Tejas fleet to a substantial 220.

When questioned about the possibility of ORCA replacing the Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) program (likely to result in the selection of the Rafale jets), IAF officials highlighted their existing investment in infrastructure and pilot training for the 36 Rafales already in service. They see the ORCA as offering no significant technological leap over the Tejas MkII or AMCA, making it an unnecessary expense.

Navy Sails On with TEDBF​

Despite the IAF's disinterest, the TEDBF program remains a priority for the Navy. The 26-ton TEDBF is specifically designed for operation from India's aircraft carriers, and it's intended to replace their ageing MiG-29K fleet.

Looking Ahead: Collaboration or Separate Paths?​

The IAF's focus on the AMCA and Tejas MkII programs signifies a strategic shift towards self-reliance in 5th-generation fighter jet technology. The Navy's TEDBF program, however, remains crucial for maintaining their carrier-based airpower. Whether the future holds collaboration between the IAF and Navy on a joint carrier-borne fighter jet project remains to be seen.
 
The Air Force needs to develop Tejas MK2 as it's a single engine jet which still has the range, power, fighting capabilities and ability to carry a lot more weapons which can penetrate deep into Pakistan and China if needed. The Tejas MK1A and MK2 fighters make it cheaper to operate, easy maintenance, parts commonality, similar equipment, similar technology, similar weapons, EW, similar defence technology and reduce pilot training time and costs etc. Also the main attack fighters will be the AMCA which can do the most harm by destroying enemy radars, SAM, command and control infrastructure, communications infrastructure etc so the Tejas jets will mainly be used as support jets to the AMCA.

Although the Air Force plans to buy about 200 Tejas MK1A and MK2 jets while they start production of Tejas MK2 jets it's possible that TEDBF would of started to fly and be going through its tests and trials. If the Air Force are impressed with the TEDBF capability, technology and fighting capabilities they can always decide to just produce 100 Tejas MK2 and order 100 of the TEDBF. Although the TEDBF is mainly designed and developed for carrier and naval operations they could always make small changes and modify it so the Air Force are happy to use it.

However the Air Force will need more than 200 AMCA jets due to the threat level increasing as China builds more jets so we will need to look at the threats and deploy units on our island bases like the Andaman and Lakshadweep islands to protect it but also increase our strike range and ability. The main concentration of our military jets, weapons and equipment has mainly focused on China to the north and Pakistan to the east but we now need to concentrate our military forces to the south of India and across the entire Indian Ocean as China will continue to expand its military power and will regularly be transiting through the Indian Ocean which now places South India at risk of attack from its carrier jets.
 
45 Mig-29Ks and they are going to fly until 2035.
Order some more Mig-29Ks and save $10+ billions and keep going forward.
Accelerate TEDBF program using that money.
Definitely not worth throwing away $10+ billions at all.
Nope. We have 40 MiG-29Ks. We ordered 45 from Russia, but a total of 5 have crashed over the years, leaving us with 40. Moreover, the aircraft are also facing a low availability rate, as the Navy has said time and again. They will serve till 2035, sure, but the availability rates means we can, on average, only get 30 or so ready at any point, which makes for two half-wings on the carriers.

Secondly, the MiG-29K production line is long closed, and modifying any MiG-29s inro MiG-29Ks will be expensive, and will be fraught with issues.

Now, coming to the TEDBF program, you can't just accelerate something by throwing money at it. Yes, some amount of cost crashing is possible, but you aren't going to see a situation where the TEDBF is entering service before 2032-33. Even so, actually reaching a full air wing may well not happen until 2037-38.

Oh, and no one is throwing 10 billion USD. The DAC approval was for an estimated 5.9 billion USD (5.5 billion Euros). The 26 Rafale Ms would be estimated to cost something in that ballpark, and not over 10 billion USD, as you are claiming without logic.
 
Nope. We have 40 MiG-29Ks. We ordered 45 from Russia, but a total of 5 have crashed over the years, leaving us with 40. Moreover, the aircraft are also facing a low availability rate, as the Navy has said time and again. They will serve till 2035, sure, but the availability rates means we can, on average, only get 30 or so ready at any point, which makes for two half-wings on the carriers.

Secondly, the MiG-29K production line is long closed, and modifying any MiG-29s inro MiG-29Ks will be expensive, and will be fraught with issues.

Now, coming to the TEDBF program, you can't just accelerate something by throwing money at it. Yes, some amount of cost crashing is possible, but you aren't going to see a situation where the TEDBF is entering service before 2032-33. Even so, actually reaching a full air wing may well not happen until 2037-38.

Oh, and no one is throwing 10 billion USD. The DAC approval was for an estimated 5.9 billion USD (5.5 billion Euros). The 26 Rafale Ms would be estimated to cost something in that ballpark, and not over 10 billion USD, as you are claiming without logic.
Total package fighters and armaments and spares and services.
Nothing free.
 
There is far more than enough room. That’s why they are competing in tenders and countries are lining up to place orders. So far no one has faced any delays. French airforce itself gives its own planes if there is any shortfall. So no. It’s not packed and there is far more than that bough room to place as many jets as needed.
Ofcourse they would be participating afterall they have to work 10 years later too....what Dassault is currently doing is a typical pvt. firm way of thinking... not criticizing them for that ofcourse.... everyone should think like that....we should too....

Our perspective should be when are we getting our planes - a decade later right!?.

When the other countries who would place order now would be getting their products!?
 
How will indigenous equipments run into supply problems? The supply problems are a result of imported supply chain, not Indian made parts.

As for making large scale production, regardless of complexity, the parts are made by machines to a good extent which speedens up the manufacturing by the same scale as it has become complex. Do you know that India makes 60 lakh big vehicles like cars, trucks, tractors, buses etc every year and over 2 crore 2 wheelers a year? This is despite all of these increasing in complexity compared to even 20 years back. Do you even understand the scale of automobile production that India does today? Why is it so hard to understand that similar scale is possible in defence too?

As for P51 mustangs, USA produced nearly 5000/year of it. USA used to produce 40k-50k planes every year during WW2. This is over 100 planes per day! And you behave like you are shocked by a number not even 1% of that scale if proposed to be done today! Defence production is less than 0.1% of the peak capacity shown during WW2 because of political reasons to prevent arms race and oil/resource trade route disruption, not because of inability
Do you think indigenous equipment doesn't have supply chains? Do you think Indian component and subsystem suppliers have infinite capacity? Do you think our indigenous jets use only indigenous components? Like it or not, there are bottlenecks everywhere.

For instance, HAL has hundreds of suppliers for the Tejas Mk 1. If they want to go from, say, 16 aircraft a year to 24, that means ensuring every single one of those suppliers can keep up with the increased requirement of parts, or you have alternatives on hand. You can't just double capacity by saying you'll double capacity.

Sure, localised supply chains are often easier to manage than supply chains that ate spread out, but you would very quickly hit an upper limit in India as well. Moreover, do remember that the Tejas Mk 1/1A, Tejas Mk 2, and AMCA will have a lot of common subsystems, which means those suppliers are also potential bottlenecks.

Now, coming to mass production, you are ignoring the simple fact that while you can build 60 lakh vehicles a year, you are able to do that because there is a commensurate demand for 60 lakh vehicles. If the market demand was 10 lakh vehicles, would you still manufacture 60 lakh?

Moreover, even a car is nowhere near as complex as a submarine is, simply by looking at the number and type of subsystems involved.

Even if you could somehow manufacture 100 submarines a year (which is completely absurd to start with, but anyways), do you have any idea of the number of submarines you would need to order to do so? China and America today make 60+ submarines of a single class, and they generally have a production rate of 2-3 boats a year.

Again, production depends on bottlenecks and the supply-demand dynamic. If you gave HAL a order for 1,000 Tejas Mk 1A aircraft today, they'd start cranking out 60-70 aircraft a year in 5-6 years. There is a practical limit on production rates, no matter what absurd rates you can get from theory.

Oh, and if you want to compare, a P-51 in today's money would be around 6,00,000 USD. In contrast, a F-16 costs around 50.75 million USD today. Think on why that is the case, would you? And be more practical, please.
 
Instead expecting IAF to participate in ORCA , IN should rethink about TEDBF & Should think about developing Naval version of AMCA. It will save Time & Money.
Your logic's a bit backwards IMO.

Policy should have been to develop a twin-engine version of Tejas (akin to Mirage-4000 from -2000) as TEBDF (with some advanced stealth features) and then do 4 IAF to 1 IN policy in purchases.

(I had a colleague in US who was a US naval veteran -- he favoured developing all fighter aircraft to be carrier operable and then buy them for USAF as well as USN -- so it convinced me similar would also be good for India, modified with rough ratio of IAF:IN in personnel)
 
AMCA is expected only in 2034 with Indian 110kN engines. Its timelines are conservative enough and unlikely to be delayed. Tejas MK2 is a good substitute for MRFA as it has all the tech and features. Also, India has Su30s.

Reason why IAF does not want TEDBF is because it has 2 engines but a small body making it unnecessarily maintenance intensive but unable to carry major load. At best it can be Rafale substitute but Indian plan is for Tejas Mk2 in large numbers as single engine lowers cost of production & operation significantly
But AMCA is not going to be a cakewalk, how many Countries are struggling with their 5th gen programs and how long they are taking, also making only 100 TEDBF is not feasible at all, it would be better to make 200, 100 each of TEDBF/ORCA in that production line 62 Rafale’s will be plenty for Pakistan, but we need a minimum of 500 Tejas MK2 w for China.
 
Do you think indigenous equipment doesn't have supply chains? Do you think Indian component and subsystem suppliers have infinite capacity? Do you think our indigenous jets use only indigenous components? Like it or not, there are bottlenecks everywhere.

For instance, HAL has hundreds of suppliers for the Tejas Mk 1. If they want to go from, say, 16 aircraft a year to 24, that means ensuring every single one of those suppliers can keep up with the increased requirement of parts, or you have alternatives on hand. You can't just double capacity by saying you'll double capacity.

Sure, localised supply chains are often easier to manage than supply chains that ate spread out, but you would very quickly hit an upper limit in India as well. Moreover, do remember that the Tejas Mk 1/1A, Tejas Mk 2, and AMCA will have a lot of common subsystems, which means those suppliers are also potential bottlenecks.

Now, coming to mass production, you are ignoring the simple fact that while you can build 60 lakh vehicles a year, you are able to do that because there is a commensurate demand for 60 lakh vehicles. If the market demand was 10 lakh vehicles, would you still manufacture 60 lakh?

Moreover, even a car is nowhere near as complex as a submarine is, simply by looking at the number and type of subsystems involved.

Even if you could somehow manufacture 100 submarines a year (which is completely absurd to start with, but anyways), do you have any idea of the number of submarines you would need to order to do so? China and America today make 60+ submarines of a single class, and they generally have a production rate of 2-3 boats a year.

Again, production depends on bottlenecks and the supply-demand dynamic. If you gave HAL a order for 1,000 Tejas Mk 1A aircraft today, they'd start cranking out 60-70 aircraft a year in 5-6 years. There is a practical limit on production rates, no matter what absurd rates you can get from theory.

Oh, and if you want to compare, a P-51 in today's money would be around 6,00,000 USD. In contrast, a F-16 costs around 50.75 million USD today. Think on why that is the case, would you? And be more practical, please.
Is Tejas Mk1 indigenous? The answer is no. It is an indigenous design but not fully indigenous technology. It has only 60% indigenous content as admitted by defence ministry itself. The foreign suppliers are unreliable and have political motivations to slow down Indian arms production and hence deliver in very slow rates, But if it was indigenous, it would not have been slowed down. Regarding Tejas Mk1 order, even if India places order for 10000 of it, HAL won't be able to manufacture 40/year as USA will refuse to supply so many engines stating that it will disrupt regional stability & balance of power! This is the problem with import dependency.

As for limit, it will depend on raw material availability, labour availability & no other real constraint if 100% indigenous. I don't know where you are getting weird ideas but that is not even close to reality. As for demand, that purely depends on political will. Do have the lowest possible IQ to not understand "arms race avoidance"? There is no private demand for submarine & everything is govt demand. But when it is life vs death like in wars or even anticipating wars, there will be unlimited demand. Talking about demand is most foolish when it comes to security needs!

As for complexity, can you explain as to how complex is modern submarine vs older submarine & how advanced is modern manufacturing vs older manufacturing, you will see that the tooling & machinery to manufacture has become equally advanced as compared to the submarine design & features. This nearly compensates the speed of manufacturing difference.

As for cost, cost is dependent on scaling. Just look how much a colour TV costed in 1980s vs how much it costs now. I remember a colour TV costing Rs15000 for 29 inch CRT whereas now we can get 40inch LED at that rate! As one scales up, the cost goes down. Yes, there is practical limits but that limit is at least x1000 times as the production that is being done now.

For example, India manufactures 4 Tejas per year. Do you know of any company with capacity of making only 4 landing gears per year? Only 4 sets of body parts a year? Only 4 canopies a year? Only 4 sets of communication devices a year? Do you even understand how absurd it looks when you shout from rooftop that this is a practical limit? The company which is supplying 4 canopies can produce 100 canopies a year but is intentionally holding back 96% of capacity. This is why even a single military grade screw costs 300-400 rupees, although similar civilian grade ones sell at 2-3 rupees. This exorbitant cost for even small parts is a result of the holding back of capacity due to political policy I mentioned above.

The manufacturing can be increased 25x in just a few days as the labour is already present and all one needs is to enhance supply of raw materials. Workers gets fixed pay regardless of 4 is manufactured or 100 is manufactured. During current times, the workers are having an easy period with low work but still kept in job due to critical defence needs. Even most of the soldiers in the army & CAPF do useless work like training, running, digging the land, cutting logs etc as a means of keeping the soldiers active, fit and motivated so that if war starts, they will be ready for action immediately. That is the definition of idle capacity & military has the highest idle capacity for this reason
 
Wow! Fantastic idea. If TEDBF/ORCA is cancelled we need 2nd bkup plan ABCD/EFGH and if that is cancelled we need a 3rd bkup plan.
Well try to derail Bharat's steady growth advising unnecessary, multiple & parallel plans so that every plan gets collapsed and Bharat is forced to import.
Fantastic idea, indeed if we cancel super expensive MRFA, with $20Bln we can do lot mire to GOI’s Aerospace eco system.
 
Yep- it's completely packed....no room for further orders
Yes 306+ and counting, we can’t wait for 10-15 Years, Rafale is jam packed, what is the point of getting a 4th gen Rafale in 2035, we will be having 300+ plus Tejas at that time, IAF is thinking in the right way,after 2035 we should focus on 5th/6th gen aircraft and drones only, 4th gen jets are already half obsolete at that time, especially spending a fortune for a 4 th gen tech at that time is a burden for us on AMCA, best option would be cheaper Tejas MK2 at 1/6th the cost.
 
That’s true. But AMCA and MK2 are there and will fly before MRFA RFP.
All indicators point to the cancellation of MRFA after election unless some foreign OEM delivers all the jets immediately in 3 years, Dassault can’t due to the 306+ backlog., so if it is MRFA then it will be Rafale (-), again even for any foreign company to setup infra, it will take 2-3 years and production will take 5 years, which will end up around the same time as 2035, so it is really pointless to continue with MRFA, currently the only foreign OEM with infra for producing jets in India is Sukhoi.
 
But AMCA is not going to be a cakewalk, how many Countries are struggling with their 5th gen programs and how long they are taking, also making only 100 TEDBF is not feasible at all, it would be better to make 200, 100 each of TEDBF/ORCA in that production line 62 Rafale’s will be plenty for Pakistan, but we need a minimum of 500 Tejas MK2 w for China.
100 TEDBF will use similar infrastructure and internal parts as Tejas Mk2. So, it will be feasible. Aren't we making much lesser Tejas mk1? Yes, AMCA is not a cakewalk. That is why I gave timeline of 2034-35. As for countries struggling, China, Russia are already producing their 5th gen planes. Only thwe western media propaganda says they are bad or struggling. India has gone the safer route of having air superiority fighter & not a fat truck like F35 which will always struggle as it is built like a fact cargo plane!
 
Ofcourse they would be participating afterall they have to work 10 years later too....what Dassault is currently doing is a typical pvt. firm way of thinking... not criticizing them for that ofcourse.... everyone should think like that....we should too....

Our perspective should be when are we getting our planes - a decade later right!?.

When the other countries who would place order now would be getting their products!?
We are getting our planes (first unit) within 36 months of signing the deal. That’s the standard. And Dassault chief has already said that he can increase production by at least 12 units per year if new orders come. So the current orders are not even enough to utilize the current possible capacity to 100%.
 
We are getting our planes (first unit) within 36 months of signing the deal. That’s the standard. And Dassault chief has already said that he can increase production by at least 12 units per year if new orders come. So the current orders are not even enough to utilize the current possible capacity to 100%.
306 jets orders given with a speculation of more.... even if we go by 36 jets/ year still not before a decade.
 
if AMCA gets delayed or if MRFA is cancelled we need a backup plan in TEDBF/ORCA.
HAL and ADA are making Tedbf (ORCA has officially been confirmed to not even be under consideration by ADA). So we will need a back up for that as it is guaranteed to be delayed.
 
And it is not yet being inducted but F18s are being ordered even now. The biggest problem for stealth fighters is hardening of the underbelly which takes a serious toll on stealth. Also, the aerodynamics of stealth planes is bad for STOBAR takeoff
Not inducted??? It hasn't received FOC, yes, because that was the plan anyways. To prove the minimum basic required functions and then induct it, with additional features being proven and integrated over time. But it has surely been inducted and is conducting operations not just with US but even with other nations.
 
AMCA is expected only in 2034 with Indian 110kN engines. Its timelines are conservative enough and unlikely to be delayed. Tejas MK2 is a good substitute for MRFA as it has all the tech and features. Also, India has Su30s.

Reason why IAF does not want TEDBF is because it has 2 engines but a small body making it unnecessarily maintenance intensive but unable to carry major load. At best it can be Rafale substitute but Indian plan is for Tejas Mk2 in large numbers as single engine lowers cost of production & operation significantly
Conservative enough? 🤣🤣🤣Mk2 hasn't been rolled out after 2 decades despite a direct commitment from HAL itself to roll it out in 2022. So no, it's nowhere near conservative and is guaranteed to be delayed.

As for the 'Indian plan', Indian plan is to have more MRFA fighters. Officially confirmed by IAF itself, as well as MoD.
 
How will indigenous equipments run into supply problems? The supply problems are a result of imported supply chain, not Indian made parts.

As for making large scale production, regardless of complexity, the parts are made by machines to a good extent which speedens up the manufacturing by the same scale as it has become complex. Do you know that India makes 60 lakh big vehicles like cars, trucks, tractors, buses etc every year and over 2 crore 2 wheelers a year? This is despite all of these increasing in complexity compared to even 20 years back. Do you even understand the scale of automobile production that India does today? Why is it so hard to understand that similar scale is possible in defence too?

As for P51 mustangs, USA produced nearly 5000/year of it. USA used to produce 40k-50k planes every year during WW2. This is over 100 planes per day! And you behave like you are shocked by a number not even 1% of that scale if proposed to be done today! Defence production is less than 0.1% of the peak capacity shown during WW2 because of political reasons to prevent arms race and oil/resource trade route disruption, not because of inability
Surely it is possible. Just impossible when HAL is involved. They can't even make 8 trainers a year. Last year HAL administration itself said they will make at least 8 trainers but have failed to do that.
 
Is Tejas Mk1 indigenous? The answer is no. It is an indigenous design but not fully indigenous technology. It has only 60% indigenous content as admitted by defence ministry itself. The foreign suppliers are unreliable and have political motivations to slow down Indian arms production and hence deliver in very slow rates, But if it was indigenous, it would not have been slowed down. Regarding Tejas Mk1 order, even if India places order for 10000 of it, HAL won't be able to manufacture 40/year as USA will refuse to supply so many engines stating that it will disrupt regional stability & balance of power! This is the problem with import dependency.
Tejas is slowed down by foreign players? Please show me one single instance of this. A single one.
 
100 TEDBF will use similar infrastructure and internal parts as Tejas Mk2. So, it will be feasible. Aren't we making much lesser Tejas mk1? Yes, AMCA is not a cakewalk. That is why I gave timeline of 2034-35. As for countries struggling, China, Russia are already producing their 5th gen planes. Only thwe western media propaganda says they are bad or struggling. India has gone the safer route of having air superiority fighter & not a fat truck like F35 which will always struggle as it is built like a fact cargo plane!
Oh the Russian jet is horrendous. India dumped 300 million USD and walked out. Russia itself cut down the orders by 70%.
 
306 jets orders given with a speculation of more.... even if we go by 36 jets/ year still not before a decade.
Well they are promising it and we are putting it in tender. We don’t know how much they can scale up. That is for them to decide. We will get ours in 36 months and that is the only thing that matters. Else slap on a penalty. Simple as that.

Also, where did the 306 number came from? As of December 31 2023, the total backlog is 211. This includes 70 for France and 141 for exports. 18 extra planes entered into picture on 8 January. So how did it come to 306???
 
What is the use of F18? What is the urgency to have Naval aircrafts all of a sudden?
Urgency? The contract has been open for almost a decade. And before that also Tejas was being evaluated. Not sure what else will count as urgency.
 
All indicators point to the cancellation of MRFA after election unless some foreign OEM delivers all the jets immediately in 3 years, Dassault can’t due to the 306+ backlog., so if it is MRFA then it will be Rafale (-), again even for any foreign company to setup infra, it will take 2-3 years and production will take 5 years, which will end up around the same time as 2035, so it is really pointless to continue with MRFA, currently the only foreign OEM with infra for producing jets in India is Sukhoi.
Can you please explain the 306 number? Itne kaha se aaye?
 
Not a single Indian Pvt sector has offered themselves to become partner for either AMCA or Mk 2.

HAL is the only saviour
Where is the tender? How can they offer themselves when no tender has been issued?
 
We are free economy. Your beloved private sector didn’t participate in AMCA even with good amount of Govt cajoling and in the process, few years were wasted. In those few years Mr. Anantakrishnan delivered first flight of MK1A. If you have Dassault and Rafale in your mind, well they have to wait. After all, Dassault took 5 years to deliver first Rafale with all the Indian Enhancements.
Where was the tender? Private sector is dying to participate but HAL and ADA blocked them. Read ACM Bhadoria's own comments where he blasted HAL and ADA for not involving private sector. As for first flight, the plane was to be delivered by now. More than 3 of them, in fact. Plus 18 trainers.

And Dassault delivered first Rafale in 3 years. The deal was to fast track delivery first and then implement ISE. They stuck to it. What's important is sticking to the committed timeline.
 
The private sector will participate when they see a guaranteed future. They cannot just gamble on shareholder money and hope to make a return in a similar way that PSUs can, since these private sector players will not always get a guaranteed bailout if things go wrong.

That said, HAL and Mr. Anantakrishnan made a lot of tall promises about the Tejas Mk 1A, so don't go down that route. They promised to deliver the first Tejas Mk 1A by the end of March. It only flew three days before that deadline. They are still running behind on Tejas Mk 1A deliveries, and are making nonsensical claims about delivering the first Tejas Mk 2 by the end of 2028, when it is very clear that a full regimen of flight tests takes 4-5 years at the least.

Oh, and the Rafale contract was signed in September 2016, with handovers planned from September 2019. The first Rafale was handed over in October 2019, and after training of crews in France, the first five Rafales were commissioned in July 2020. So, unlike HAL, Dassault actually managed to stick to promised delivery schedules.
Wrong buddy. They had promised to deliver 3 Mk1As by 3 Feb 2024. This has been officially published by PIB on behalf of MoD. So this is given in writing in a contract.
 
Wrong buddy. They had promised to deliver 3 Mk1As by 3 Feb 2024. This has been officially published by PIB on behalf of MoD. So this is given in writing in a contract.
Eh, I was being charitable to them. Still, you are correct, and that only strengthens the point we are making here.
 
Urgency? The contract has been open for almost a decade. And before that also Tejas was being evaluated. Not sure what else will count as urgency.
India had only 1 carrier & plenty of Mig29k a decade back. What was the point of opening a contract for naval fighters back then?
 

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