L&T Pledges to Build P-75I Submarines Simultaneously at Two Shipyards for Accelerated Production

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Larsen & Toubro (L&T), a major Indian conglomerate, has announced its readiness to accelerate the production of submarines under the Project-75I program by constructing them concurrently at two shipyards.

J.D. Patil, CEO and Managing Director of L&T, stated that the company is prepared to undertake this ambitious approach should the Ministry of Defence (MoD) and the Indian Navy require it.

L&T, in partnership with Spain's Navantia, has submitted a bid for the Project-75I program, offering a platform based on Navantia's advanced S-80 class submarine design.

The S-80 class is recognized for its state-of-the-art technology, stealth capabilities, and endurance, making it a strong contender for India's submarine modernization efforts.

Patil emphasized L&T's robust shipbuilding infrastructure and its capacity to handle the demands of simultaneous submarine production. The company has identified two shipyards for this purpose: the Kattupalli facility near Chennai on India's east coast and the Hazira facility near Surat on the west coast. Both facilities have the potential to be adapted and equipped for submarine construction, enabling faster production rates to meet the Indian Navy's requirements.

This dual-shipyard strategy highlights L&T's commitment to scaling its operations to fulfill India's strategic maritime needs. By leveraging its domestic manufacturing capabilities and its partnership with Navantia, L&T aims to deliver cutting-edge submarine technology while promoting indigenous defence production, aligning with the government's "Make in India" initiative.

The Project-75I tender is a crucial element in India's efforts to strengthen its underwater combat fleet, which is essential for safeguarding the nation's vast maritime interests. If L&T's bid is successful, it could position the company as a key player in the modernization of the Indian Navy, offering a combination of technological innovation and localized production to address India's defence requirements.
 
MDL with TKMS with the German-modified U212CD type AIP stealth design is the likely winner for P75I, in my opinion! I think our U214 will be heavily modified with U212CD stealth features and non-magnetic steel - just my opinion!
 
I think 12 conventional indigenous subs are going to be built. That order should be split between L&T and MDL for faster and speedier induction. At the moment, MDL, with experience, can build the subs from Project 75(I). Two things can happen: either go for both German subs (6) and Navantia S-80 (6) and split them between MDL and L&T equally, or go for 12 of either German or Spanish subs and split equally between L&T and MDL. Lastly, L&T is in the wrong collaboration with Spanish Navantia; it should have been with German TKMS.
 
L&T has already destroyed the Indian nuclear submarine by building faulty hatches. taxpayer money is not cheap to throw into drain in a falling Indian economy by giving costly projects to L&T. Indian economy size is decreasing. Every rupee is important. Better to stick to MDL only.
 
L&T has already destroyed the Indian nuclear submarine by building faulty hatches. taxpayer money is not cheap to throw into drain in a falling Indian economy by giving costly projects to L&T. Indian economy size is decreasing. Every rupee is important. Better to stick to MDL only.
Um, L&T was not responsible for that system that led to the damage on Arihant.The outfitting was done by the SBC at Visakhapatnam. Anh blame would be due to SBC most likely, as it was a system failure that led to the operational lapse.

Next, Arihant was damaged, not destroyed. Yes, it was an embarrassing accident, but Arihant is back already, and God willing, will serve for another 30+ years.

Next, where did you get the idea that the economy is shrinking? Are you misinterpreting the Q2 growth numbers? Growth has slowed down, not reversed, which was always going to happen. No economy is immune to global economic conditions, and you can't have sustained growth every single quarter for years. Look at Q3 and Q4 numbers before you start talking about the state of the economy.
 
3 AIP scorpenes and 6-9 midget at MDL followed by 76I. 6 subs at L&TNavantia. Will make IN a formidable underwater force. German subs and kilo class subs will be due for retirements in next decade.
 
L & T is capable, they will definitely get succeed to build Subs & it's better to have another partner like Navantia.
Rest Economy, it's big Question in coming year growth rate should be in double digit that's not happening, infact it is getting reduced.
 
I think 12 conventional indigenous subs are going to be built. That order should be split between L&T and MDL for faster and speedier induction. At the moment, MDL, with experience, can build the subs from Project 75(I). Two things can happen: either go for both German subs (6) and Navantia S-80 (6) and split them between MDL and L&T equally, or go for 12 of either German or Spanish subs and split equally between L&T and MDL. Lastly, L&T is in the wrong collaboration with Spanish Navantia; it should have been with German TKMS.
This is investment and security in billions of dollars. Its not like i have two children and i view them equally like a parent
 
I think 12 conventional indigenous subs are going to be built. That order should be split between L&T and MDL for faster and speedier induction. At the moment, MDL, with experience, can build the subs from Project 75(I). Two things can happen: either go for both German subs (6) and Navantia S-80 (6) and split them between MDL and L&T equally, or go for 12 of either German or Spanish subs and split equally between L&T and MDL. Lastly, L&T is in the wrong collaboration with Spanish Navantia; it should have been with German TKMS.
The Spanish Subs are now way ahead of their German counterparts. The best idea would be to go in for 12 subscription and to split the order 6+6 between L&T and MDL. This way India would have a substantial fleet of submarines by 2030.
 
Government had said Scorpene with France would be the last Foreign Submarine bought in India. Next onwards India was supposed to design and manufacture our own submarines
 
Government had said Scorpene with France would be the last Foreign Submarine bought in India. Next onwards India was supposed to design and manufacture our own submarines
We are already developing 12 diesel electric submarines under P76 which will be ready soon. The last foreign submarine we will buy is under P75I.
 
MDL can sub contract 2 to L&T as that will speed up deliveries. MDL contract will entain delays as Public sector work culture not suited for urgent deliveries
 
Even if the German offer is accepted, I believe that both MDS and L&T can take up the construction of that sub. After all the order is bound to be increased later. Say, around 9-12. I'm sure that L&T will be glad to join!
 
The best option to pick is the German submarine as they are more advanced and the technology and parts belongs to them which means that we will just need to deal with one company.

With Spain a lot of its critical parts, components, equipment and technology are directly imported from Europe and the USA. It will become with complex to maintain or upgrade along with being more expensive individually itself.
 
MDL can sub contract 2 to L&T as that will speed up deliveries. MDL contract will entain delays as Public sector work culture not suited for urgent deliveries
No, subcontracting to L&T if MDL wins would be highly unlikely due to competition laws.
 
Even if the German offer is accepted, I believe that both MDS and L&T can take up the construction of that sub. After all the order is bound to be increased later. Say, around 9-12. I'm sure that L&T will be glad to join!
No, the chances of the losing yard being allowed to join for the winning bid are very low due to competition laws, since allowing that may well allow one company to deliberately undercut their own bid if the other one has a better margin for them.
 
MDL with TKMS with the German-modified U212CD type AIP stealth design is the likely winner for P75I, in my opinion! I think our U214 will be heavily modified with U212CD stealth features and non-magnetic steel - just my opinion!
The Germans have given the tech to manufacture non magnetic steel to Chinese but are averse to give the same to Indians.
 
P75i nos will anyway be increased over the time so instead of ordering 6 nos it would be better to order 10 or 12 and the order being divided between mdl and l&t. Mdl will only dealy the deal as they does always so a good opportunity to increase the submarine building yard from 1 to 2 and see how mdl mess this time.
 
If HSL can give subcontract to manufacture 2 fleet support ship deal to l&t why can't mdl do the same.
Because L&T was never in the contention for the FSS contract. Say if MDL decided to sub-contract a few of the 75Is to HSL or someone, they could.

Assuminng MDL and TKMS won, the problem with giving it to L&T would be that there would be allegations of malpractice in L&T's bid or allegations of collusion between MDL and L&T to deliberately undercut one bid in favour of the other.

That is a morally and ethically gray area. Not saying such subcontracting isn't possible. It mist certainly is, but this would involve a lot of controversy and might escalate to something like the CCI or something.
 

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