Russia's Su-57 on Display at Aero India 2025, Tempting IAF Amidst AMCA Delays and Need to Counter China-Pak 5th-Gen Fleet

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The Indian Air Force (IAF) faces a strategic crossroads as Russia's state-owned United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) confirms the Sukhoi Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jet will be showcased at Aero India 2025 next month in Bengaluru.

This display reignites the debate surrounding India's potential acquisition of the advanced fighter, a discussion that has simmered since India withdrew from the joint Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) program with Russia in 2018.

India's exit from the FGFA program was primarily attributed to concerns over project delays, cost escalations, and perceived discrepancies in technology transfer.

Following India's departure, Russia continued to develop the Su-57 independently, achieving initial operational capability in 2020. This made Russia one of only three nations globally, alongside the United States and China, to field operational fifth-generation fighters.

Currently, the Russian Aerospace Forces are believed to operate around 27 Su-57s, equipped with advanced weaponry, including the hypersonic Vympel R-37 air-to-air missile, capable of engaging targets at extremely long ranges.

The Su-57's presence at Aero India 2025 is particularly significant given the delays plaguing India's indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program. The AMCA, envisioned as India's own fifth-generation stealth fighter, is not expected to enter service before the 2030s.

This timeline puts increasing pressure on the IAF, which is currently operating a fleet dominated by aging fourth-generation fighters like the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Mirage 2000. The IAF has an authorized strength of 42 squadrons but it is down to just 31.

The evolving security landscape in the region further compounds India's challenges. China's deployment of its Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter along the Indian border, coupled with Pakistan's potential acquisition of China's Shenyang FC-31 (export designation J-35), and the emergence of Turkey's indigenous KAAN fighter, create a complex and potentially volatile environment.

The Su-57, with its advanced sensor suite, stealth characteristics, and multirole capabilities, could potentially provide the IAF with a crucial edge in deterring aggression and maintaining air superiority. The Su-57 is designed for air superiority and attack operations. It has a maximum speed of Mach 2 and a combat range exceeding 1,500 km.

However, acquiring the Su-57 would be a complex undertaking for India. The financial implications of procuring, operating, and maintaining a fleet of Su-57s would be substantial.

Furthermore, the Su-57's combat performance in the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict has been described as limited, with the aircraft primarily used for launching long-range missiles from within Russian airspace. This raises questions about its effectiveness in contested airspace.

Perhaps the most significant hurdle facing a potential Su-57 deal is the looming threat of sanctions under the US Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

CAATSA is designed to deter countries from purchasing significant defense equipment from Russia, and India's previous acquisition of the S-400 missile defense system already strained relations with the US. Acquiring the Su-57 could further jeopardize India's strategic partnerships, particularly with NATO allies, who are increasingly wary of Russia's actions on the global stage.

Aero India 2025 will undoubtedly be a crucial platform for discussions between India and Russia regarding the Su-57. Whether these discussions lead to a formal acquisition remains to be seen.

India's decision will ultimately be a delicate balancing act, weighing strategic needs, financial constraints, and complex geopolitical considerations. The decision will not only shape the future of India's air power but also have significant ramifications for its international relationships.
 
NATO nations, including the US, have the options to provide their fifth gen fighter with similar terms and conditions.
 
Su-57 and F-35 are both participating in Aero-India 2025. It will be a good comparison between two 5th-gen fighter jets. One of them is being offered to India under Make in India, while another might be offered on an imported basis in flyaway condition. But is the IAF interested in either of these 5th-gen fighter jets?
 
As usual we should first try to acquire F-35s if denied then go for Su-57 based PMF not, off the shelf Su-57 ! IAF team must inquire what progress made in 41+ improvements we asked for !
 
If India wants to buy a 5th-gen fighter jet, then they should go for the F-35. The USA is capable of providing it in a short time. We have seen Russia struggling to provide S-400 batteries, and they have issues with timelines. Pakistan is getting a 5th-gen jet in a few years, either from China or Turkey. Our indigenous projects will not give results before 2040. India should hurry up. India has no option right now. India has to buy and build simultaneously.
 
NATO nations, including the US, have the options to provide their fifth gen fighter with similar terms and conditions.
Under Make in India & export potential with a complete ecosystem with customization, the answer is a big no. The West will never offer a 5th-gen fighter jet with ToT & Make in India.
 
If India wants to buy a 5th-gen fighter jet, then they should go for the F-35. The USA is capable of providing it in a short time. We have seen Russia struggling to provide S-400 batteries, and they have issues with timelines. Pakistan is getting a 5th-gen jet in a few years, either from China or Turkey. Our indigenous projects will not give results before 2040. India should hurry up. India has no option right now. India has to buy and build simultaneously.
That isn't as easy as it sounds. Firstly, the US hasn't offered the F-35 to India, nor has India made a request yet. That makes any potential acquisition that much more difficult. Secondly, the US has already raised concerns over India's acquisition of the S-400, and if you look at Turkey, the US might insist on some fairly serious and operationally constraining conditions (such as the S-400 being transferred to some special unit, or geographic separation, etc, though demands for disposal are unlikely). Moreover, cost would, as always, be a major concern.
 
Under Make in India & export potential with a complete ecosystem with customization, the answer is a big no. The West will never offer a 5th-gen fighter jet with ToT & Make in India.
Exactly. That is why westerners and their Indian proxies should stop complaining about India potentially buying the Su-57.
 
Only when we have successfully developed HTSE-1200 is Safran offering full ToT for the Turbomecca Shakti engine. Only when the Kaveri engine is successfully developed will GE produce F-404 for Tejas. Only when Tejas Mk2 is successfully developed will Dassault offer Rafale with ToT. Only when AMCA is successfully developed will Russia or the US offer Su-57 or F-35. Only with strength can we get any respect; without that, everything is empty talk.
 
AERO INDIA 2025 closing day announcement by IAF chief should be:

"Western countries who have goodwill for India and want India to refrain from buying Russian arms should offer their 5th-gen fighters. India is in serious consideration for buying off-the-shelf 5th-gen fighters, be it NATO or Russian, or don't cry foul later."
 
Exactly. That is why westerners and their Indian proxies should stop complaining about India potentially buying the Su-57.
So you are saying Russia, who refused our pilots even a chance to touch the plane, who are even today refusing to provide us anything more than 33% of the tech for Ka-226T (a helicopter which its military has refused to induct), who gave us only 47% of ToT for AL-31F after we have bought 270+ Su-30MKI even though the original deal was for 100%, will give us complete ToT and export rights? Dream on.

And that is before you even consider the cr@ppy quality of Su-57, which has been refused by China or even the Russian Air Force itself, who have cancelled 70% of the orders.
 
AERO INDIA 2025 closing day announcement by IAF chief should be:

"Western countries who have goodwill for India and want India to refrain from buying Russian arms should offer their 5th-gen fighters. India is in serious consideration for buying off-the-shelf 5th-gen fighters, be it NATO or Russian, or don't cry foul later."
Well, as of now, the IAF has officially stated that we won't buy any fifth-gen planes at all. As for Russian planes, the IAF is even more adverse. Remember, in 2018, the IAF had two active programs: FGFA and MGFA. The IAF chose to cancel FGFA and went ahead with MRFA (even though that program is stuck for now). So clearly, the IAF found the Su-57 to be even inferior to the planes it had evaluated in MMRCA. So chances of inducting Russian fifth-gen planes are non-existent, even if we have no fifth-gen fighters with us.
 
Under Make in India & export potential with a complete ecosystem with customization, the answer is a big no. The West will never offer a 5th-gen fighter jet with ToT & Make in India.
Even if pak or China attack and take kashmir or arunachal pradesh we will talk only TOT and make in india. Apart from that we will do nothing.
 
India is not interested in any 5th-gen fighter purchases. There is propaganda by France against buying 5th-gen fighters. In this article, they mention the cost, which is rubbish. Even a financially weak country like Pakistan can buy two 5th-gen fighters. This is a worst-case example of inactive decision-making on the security of the country.
 
Even if pak or China attack and take kashmir or arunachal pradesh we will talk only TOT and make in india. Apart from that we will do nothing.
Things aren’t that bleak as you make it sound. Pakistan and China can’t attack India because we have nuclear weapons. Also we have recently seen the abysmal and ridiculous way in how effective their troops are. They attacked us, outnumbered us, better armed than us, ambushed us and despite all of that golden advantage they lost over 45 troops and were forced to retreat back to their side.

Then they locked horns for 5 years and begged us to go back to pre 2019 position
 
The USA isn’t going to offer their F35 and the Su57 is still not completely ready although it would be the best 4.5th generation jet on the market. The main issue is designing, developing and manufacturing a brand new 5th generation engine with super cruise capability etc among other needs but progress is slowly being made.
 
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