After Fatah-I/II Missile's Failure against India's S-400 and Barak-8 Systems, Desperate Pakistan Quest for Chinese Hypersonic Missiles

After Fatah-I/II Missile's Failure against India's S-400 and Barak-8 Systems, Desperate Pakistan Quest for Chinese Hypersonic Missiles


Following the reported failure of its missile systems to penetrate India’s air defence shield during recent conflicts, Pakistan has approached China to acquire advanced hypersonic weapon technology.

According to sources, this move aims to counter India's increasingly robust and multi-layered defence network, with Pakistan intending to present any acquired technology as an indigenous development.

In recent skirmishes between the two nations, Pakistan reportedly launched its Fatah-I and Fatah-II missile systems, which are guided multiple rocket launchers. Alongside these, the Chinese-made CM-400AKG air-to-surface missile was also deployed from JF-17 Thunder jets.

The Fatah-I has a stated range of 140 km, while its successor, the Fatah-II, can allegedly strike targets up to 400 km away. The CM-400AKG has been marketed by its Chinese state-owned manufacturer as a hypersonic weapon, a claim now being questioned.

However, these projectiles were reportedly unable to breach India’s sophisticated air defence architecture. The system, which combines the Russian-origin S-400 Triumf, the jointly developed Indo-Israeli Barak-8 (MRSAM), and the domestic Akash missile system, proved effective at neutralizing the threats.

In a notable incident on May 10, 2025, a Fatah-II missile targeting Delhi was successfully intercepted by an Indian Barak-8 missile over Sirsa in Haryana, showcasing the system's operational readiness.

The ineffectiveness of these weapons has cast doubt on their capabilities, particularly the CM-400AKG. Claims made by Pakistani and Chinese state-run media outlets that the missile had successfully destroyed an Indian S-400 battery in Adampur, Punjab, have been officially denied by Indian sources.

Officials in India maintain that no S-400 system was damaged, suggesting that the performance of the Chinese-supplied missile may have been significantly exaggerated.

The primary motivation for Pakistan's new quest is the formidable challenge posed by India's air defences. The S-400 system, known for its ability to track up to 100 aerial targets and engage threats at a distance of 400 km, has created a near-impenetrable airspace. Pakistan’s current missile arsenal has demonstrated an inability to effectively bypass this advanced defensive layer.

In response, Pakistan has reportedly requested that China provide it with Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) technology. This technology is a core component of systems like China’s DF-17 missile.

An HGV is launched on a ballistic missile but then detaches and glides towards its target at speeds exceeding five times the speed of sound. Its ability to perform sharp, unpredictable maneuvers at low altitudes makes it exceptionally difficult for conventional missile defence systems to track and intercept.

Defence analysts believe Pakistan seeks either to purchase such a system outright or to co-develop it with Chinese assistance, likely rebranding it as a domestic project to enhance its national defence prestige.

This move is consistent with the long history of close defence cooperation between Beijing and Islamabad. China has been a primary supplier of advanced military hardware to Pakistan, including the HQ-9B and HQ-16FE air defence systems, and was a partner in developing the JF-17 Thunder fighter jet.

It is speculated that China could sell its DF-17 system to Pakistan, transfer the underlying technology, or potentially use an intermediary, such as North Korea, which has also reportedly benefited from Chinese HGV assistance.

Pakistan's pursuit of hypersonic weapons is a direct reaction to India's growing military capabilities. India's powerful air defence network, coupled with its own successful test of a long-range hypersonic missile in December 2024, has created a strategic imbalance that Pakistan is keen to address.
 
Hypersonic like stealth is major sales pitch , high speed needs restricted controls and China can power such a missile but keeping it on control is another task and with Pakistani moron operator,its already a failure. Pakistan will sink Chinese arms industry single handedly.
 
US had to develop a special variant of the SM-6 (Block-1B) to remain relevant against Chinese HGVs.

So we need to start developing a new variant of the AD series to effectively counter this potential procurement.
 
LoL didn't they had HQ9, drones and all chinese stuff? Fateh are just repainted chinese rockets.
Fatah didn't work, that's why they are taking these hypersonic missiles from China. India just recently developed her own hypersonic missile system. The fact is no air defence system can put down a hypersonic missile, so if our enemy has it, it means we can't stop it if they fire it at us.
 
Together with hypersonic missiles, India must develop anti-hypersonic missile defence system which India can which can be proved from its past experience in successfully developing state of the art anti missile system..
 
Pakistan fired near hypersonic Mach 5 missiles , one being PL 15 AAM and this Fatah with a flat trajectory , both were shot down by Akashteer network, PL 15 being an example where BVRM type matter between two aircrafts was intercepted by Surface to Air missiles . So Mach 7 or Mach 10 is just a number , our algorithm of interception is too good to beat .seems we can allocated the best resources to do work via Akashteer data processing and responding AA system .
 
Chinese big claim has been exposed. Now the whole world won't believe them at all after seeing none of the defence products worked during India pakistan war. Now Chinese are not allowed to use any of the American electronics design software which will decimate to develop any of the high technology products.
 
Fatah didn't work, that's why they are taking these hypersonic missiles from China. India just recently developed her own hypersonic missile system. The fact is no air defence system can put down a hypersonic missile, so if our enemy has it, it means we can't stop it if they fire it at us.
Look at the damage we've done to Pakis because they fired fatah, now you can imagine what we would do if they managed to land any chinese junk in our strategic bases 👿.. even god can save them from our rath.
 
US had to develop a special variant of the SM-6 (Block-1B) to remain relevant against Chinese HGVs.

So we need to start developing a new variant of the AD series to effectively counter this potential procurement.
What are the options available, given that there are few best ADs (some claim they can counter).
 
Together with hypersonic missiles, India must develop anti-hypersonic missile defence system which India can which can be proved from its past experience in successfully developing state of the art anti missile system..
Bharat is already working on an anti hypersonic system. Hope it will be ready by the time Pak gets the hypersonic missiles. Most probably "Kusha" air defence system can handle it.
 
Well...Two things:
  1. No country, especially China, would be stupid enough to share technology of hypersonic weapons for indigenous production with another country. So forget any plans of indigenous production of hypersonic weapons in Pakistan; these are just wishes and dreams of the Pakistani people.
  2. But China can sell export variants of these missiles in limited numbers to an enemy nation like Pakistan to harm India without sharing technology, just as they are selling J-35.
But I think no country would be stupid enough to give weapons to its bordering state which the bordering state can very well use against itself. Until China has a 100% surefire fix for stopping such weapons itself, exporting them will be utter foolishness.

Anyways, we should start strengthening our air defence shield. Laser weapon-based air defence systems are much faster compared to hypersonic weapons. So, they should be promoted and used extensively in our future air defence. Enhanced capabilities should be built to track hypersonic projectiles. Combining these two, we can have effective air defence against both Pakistan's nuclear missiles and possible hypersonic projectiles procured from anywhere.
 
Together with hypersonic missiles, India must develop anti-hypersonic missile defence system which India can which can be proved from its past experience in successfully developing state of the art anti missile system..
Buy a few S-500s as a stop-gap arrangement until our Kusha is ready.
 
China will be wary of this as any leak about this hypersonic missile will give USA, Japan, and Taiwan a chance to develop countermeasures. If Chinese are worried about leaks, they will have to station the missiles along with Chinese forces/observers which is against official policy of China.
 
We should understand Chaina is our main enemy. Like Russia is fighting with NATO not Ukrain, we are fighting with China. Else India Pakistan war will last few days. We should stay ahead China to keep Pakistan silent.
 
Fatah didn't work, that's why they are taking these hypersonic missiles from China. India just recently developed her own hypersonic missile system. The fact is no air defence system can put down a hypersonic missile, so if our enemy has it, it means we can't stop it if they fire it at us.
Don't worry...we are developing AD-AH (Air Defence - Anti Hypersonic) missile to intercept Hypersonic Glide Vehicles and Hypersonic Cruise Missiles under BMD Phase-III !!

under Project Kusha too, we will have hypersonic interception capability...which will be inducted within 2029..
 
Only seeing tree don't mean the forest don't exit , so is the case missiles and other forces multiplier with high speed, need complex system from detection to timely interception . Akashteer has proven that tech only as it controls the jigsaw puzzle and it's response, high or low speed is a number only so see the whole picture and we have done better then all in the whole world , even Isralie have failed , we have not.must feel good fro a while
 
Chinese HGVs are very high end. Nfw China would give them to Pak. Because in a potential conflict with USA, these will be key. They have already suffered a HUGE setback with HQ9 and PL15s, getting exposed. If China gives them, Pak would roll out the red carpet and invite CIA to examine them.

If China does give it to them, we will have to do matching escalation with Taiwan. We will give our Pralays, LRAShM to them.

China's program have been setback atleast by 5 years. They will have to go back to the drawing board and spend 1-2 years to fix their failures for PL15 & other PL variants. They will have to rethink their Beidou and seeker strategy which is core to pretty much most of their hardware. Then test, mass produce, train and induct which will take another 3 years minimum. They will have to forget any major op during this time. So Taiwan will have to wait. Now the real fun starts when Mr.X has another brainstroke.
 
Fatah didn't work, that's why they are taking these hypersonic missiles from China. India just recently developed her own hypersonic missile system. The fact is no air defence system can put down a hypersonic missile, so if our enemy has it, it means we can't stop it if they fire it at us.
Firing this is one notch up the escalation ladder. The price they paid for firing Fatah is 11 out of 13 airbases, i.e., 85%, and two nuclear storage sites. HGVs are very difficult to intercept. If they fire it at us, then they have signed their own death wish. India was merely toying with them last time. If they launch HGVs, then it will be a full-scale response from India. No more operation Banian in the morning and ceasefire in the afternoon business. It will be complete annihilation.

So what exactly is Pak hoping to gain? We will be tracking all their launchers. If the intention is clear, they may land one or two. The rest will be taken out, and an extremely huge cost will be imposed.
 
US had to develop a special variant of the SM-6 (Block-1B) to remain relevant against Chinese HGVs.

So we need to start developing a new variant of the AD series to effectively counter this potential procurement.
There are like dozens of both govt and private hypersonic weapons projects going in US, tho they have started late compared to russia and china but they will catch up.
 

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