GTRE Eyes Global Partners for 6th-Gen Engine Beyond Safran Partnership, Weighing Bespoke Deals or Joining Tempest Program

GTRE Eyes Global Partners for 6th-Gen Engine Beyond Safran Partnership, Weighing Bespoke Deals or Joining Tempest Program


India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) is strategically exploring international collaborations to develop a sixth-generation fighter engine, signalling a major step towards securing the nation's future air combat capabilities.

Officials suggest that beyond the current French partnership for the fifth-generation fighter, India may either negotiate a new, dedicated agreement with a global aerospace leader or join a multinational consortium like the UK-led Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP) to fast-track development.

This forward-looking strategy aims to give India rapid access to cutting-edge technologies, such as adaptive cycle engines and artificial intelligence-driven controls, which are considered essential for the next era of aerial warfare.

By seeking partners, India aims to avoid the lengthy and expensive process of developing these complex systems from scratch, ensuring the Indian Air Force (IAF) can maintain a technological edge against rapidly modernising adversaries.

Current Focus: Powering the AMCA Mk2​

India's immediate priority remains the engine for its fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) Mk2. For this, GTRE is working with France's Safran Aircraft Engines in a landmark joint venture.

This collaboration, solidified during French President Emmanuel Macron's visit to India in January 2024, is focused on co-developing a powerful 110 kilonewton (kN) thrust engine.

This engine will enable the AMCA to achieve "supercruise" (supersonic flight without using fuel-guzzling afterburners) and will incorporate advanced stealth features.

The agreement includes full technology transfer, with the goal of producing over 400 of these engines in India by the mid-2030s. These power plants are also expected to be used in the Navy's Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF).

The Leap to Sixth-Generation Technology​

While the Safran partnership is crucial for the fifth-generation AMCA, the technologies required for a true sixth-generation fighter are significantly more advanced.

Future combat aircraft, expected to be operational beyond 2040, will need engines capable of hypersonic speeds and powering directed-energy weapons.

A key feature of these future engines is Variable Cycle (VC) or Adaptive Cycle Technology.

In simple terms, this allows an engine to act like a fuel-efficient commercial jet engine during normal flight but transform into a high-performance fighter engine for combat, offering an optimal balance of thrust and range.

The current engine being developed with Safran does not include this complex technology, creating a technological gap that India needs to fill for its future programs.

Two Potential Paths Forward​

To acquire this next-level technology, GTRE is considering two distinct options:
  1. A New Bespoke Deal: This would involve negotiating a fresh agreement with a different global giant, such as Rolls-Royce from the UK or General Electric from the United States. This path would allow India to create a tailor-made engine perfectly suited to its specific operational and design requirements.
  2. Joining a Multinational Program: The alternative is to join an existing sixth-generation initiative. The most prominent option is the Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP), a joint effort by the UK, Italy, and Japan to build a next-generation fighter, often referred to as the Tempest. Joining this consortium would allow India to share development costs, risks, and technological breakthroughs with its partners.

Balancing Indigenous Efforts with Global Help​

While seeking foreign collaboration, India continues to advance its own engine development capabilities. GTRE has successfully designed an indigenous engine core and is building a new test facility capable of handling engines up to 130 kN of thrust.

However, top defence officials acknowledge that a foreign partner is essential for a major leap. DRDO Chief Dr. Samir V. Kamat has stated that collaboration is necessary to master the complex material science and advanced simulation tools required for sixth-generation power plants.

This reflects a pragmatic national strategy that blends the goal of self-reliance with the practical need for global expertise to meet ambitious timelines.

This dual approach—developing indigenous capacity while leveraging international alliances—is seen as critical to overcoming past dependencies on foreign engines, which affected programs like the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, and positioning India as a future exporter of advanced defence technology.
 
First, let’s master the 4th and 5th gen. Bhai, I’m not demotivating them, but we are dependent on the USA for almost all of our jets. So currently, the 4th gen engine for the Tejas series should be explored—that should be the priority.
 
First, let’s master the 4th and 5th gen. Bhai, I’m not demotivating them, but we are dependent on the USA for almost all of our jets. So currently, the 4th gen engine for the Tejas series should be explored—that should be the priority.
Talks sense. Keeping up to date with capabilities we don't have is also prudent.
 
So joint development with safran. And indigeneous development again seeing partner for 6th gen. This is not typical thinking of true genious. China doing everything own. Their scientist working hard without any western support. Here public money wasted in two way. And finally blaming govt for fund. Is it correct. Create powerful r and d. Work hard. Otherwise this joint development never stops.
 
Real problem lies don't fund in-house R&D and then say that our Scientist are not good enough so we need collaboration.
 
See guys. I think you must look at the issues from all perspectives.
India atleast in fighter aircraft and engine technology is playing catch up currently .
It has not shown any kind of urgency or invested the money needed in R and D even when situation was dire except buying stuff off the shelf if push came to shove.
But now it has realised that it is way back compared to China and even Pakistan is nosing ahead in quantity though not quality.
Let's not forget emerging adversaries like Turkey are also ahead with KAAN project also getting customers.
So even though India is struggling with engine technology it is and it must drive ahead . Since the AMCA engine collaboration is in the bag with Safran India must go ahead and look to get a foot in for 6th generation tech. Get our scientists in so that they acquire tech exposure atleast. Can't play catch up any more. What is done is done. We need to keep marching ahead until we are on par or ahead of the rest.
 
WOW, hop on from one shoulder to another like an intellectualy paralyzed and handicapped and crippled and deprived and disabled and debilitated nation.

Never ever ever ever ever ..... try to do such advanced and hi-tech things fully indigenously.

GREAT GOING ....
 
The RR had offered an Adaptice cycle engine(ACE), but for reasons best known to GTRE and govt, Safran was selected. Probably it was a geo political and strategic decision. Also RR has many US origin components. Probably that also weighed in on going for the French collaboration.
 
First, let’s master the 4th and 5th gen. Bhai, I’m not demotivating them, but we are dependent on the USA for almost all of our jets. So currently, the 4th gen engine for the Tejas series should be explored—that should be the priority.
I would normally agree with you. But considering the timelines that we usually take to mature a technology, it would be atleast another 3 decades before we have a working 6 gen engine. So it would be prudent to have parallel projects running together.
 

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