India's AMCA Fighter Jet to Pioneer Select 6th Gen Capabilities, Potentially Surpassing Existing 5th Gen Jets

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India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is not just another 5th generation fighter jet; it's being designed with an eye on the future, incorporating emerging technologies that place it firmly in the 5.5 generation category. But what exactly does that mean, and how does the AMCA aim to surpass its contemporaries?

While the concept of a 5.5 generation fighter isn't universally standardized, it generally refers to an aircraft that builds upon the core capabilities of 5th generation fighters while integrating select 6th generation technologies. This includes:
  • Incremental Stealth Improvements: Going beyond basic stealth with features like adaptive materials that dynamically change radar absorbency or advanced methods to minimize infrared signatures.
  • Enhanced Sensor Fusion: Incorporating artificial intelligence for superior data processing and potentially enabling autonomous decision-making in combat.
  • Network-Centric Warfare: Expanding capabilities for data sharing with other platforms, including unmanned systems, for a more integrated battlespace.
  • Directed Energy Weapons: Early integration of technologies like lasers for defensive or offensive purposes.
  • Optionally Manned: The ability to operate with or without a pilot, leveraging AI for remote or autonomous missions.

Here's how the AMCA aims to surpass existing 5th generation fighters:
  • Superior Stealth: The AMCA's design emphasizes all-aspect stealth, including rear-aspect stealth, using diverterless supersonic inlets and advanced materials. This potentially gives it an edge over jets like the F-35, which may lack comprehensive rear-aspect stealth in some variants.
  • Payload and Flexibility: The AMCA features an internal weapons bay and offers greater flexibility in weapon loadouts, with significant internal fuel capacity and external payload options, providing operational versatility that could surpass the J-20, which has faced criticism for its payload limitations.
  • Advanced Avionics: Incorporating an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar with Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology, the AMCA aims for superior target detection and tracking. Its integration of AI for sensor and data management could provide decision support or even autonomous actions during combat, pushing the boundaries of current 5th generation capabilities.
  • Engine Technology: The AMCA is planned with two engines, potentially offering greater power and reliability compared to single-engine designs in some 5th generation jets. The goal is to achieve supercruise, a feature not all 5th generation fighters possess.
  • Cost-Effectiveness: As an indigenous development, the AMCA could benefit from lower maintenance and operational costs tailored to India's specific needs, unlike imported fighters that may incur higher long-term expenses.
  • Future-Proofing: With the AMCA Mk2 slated to include 6th generation characteristics like swarm drone coordination and enhanced electronic warfare capabilities, it is designed as a platform that can evolve with technological advancements.
The AMCA's classification as a 5.5 generation fighter positions it not just as a competitor to existing 5th generation jets but as a potential game-changer in aerial warfare. By combining the best of current 5th generation capabilities with a forward-looking approach to integrating emerging technologies, the AMCA could provide India with a significant strategic advantage in future air combat scenarios.
 
Eye-opener for comedians & fools who downgrade AMCA and call some 4.75 fighter jets 5th gen and suggest Bharat join that 4.75G fighter jet project. I have said several times that the F-35 is not a true 5th-gen fighter jet.
 
I have said it many times that India has missed the 5th-gen bus. The best option is to buy 4 squadrons of Su-57 and convert AMCA into a 6th-gen jet incorporating features from YF-23.
 
Now please work harder & make AMCA a reality. Future AMCA MK2 variant is depending on the success of MK1 fighter.
 
As Pakistan is set to acquire the J-35 stealth fighter from China, India needs to work on a war footing with AMCA. The government must loosen its purse, and whatever third-party technical consultancy is required, India must take beforehand. This project must be monitored directly by the Prime Minister's Office.
 
As Pakistan is set to acquire the J-35 stealth fighter from China, India needs to work on a war footing with AMCA. The government must loosen its purse, and whatever third-party technical consultancy is required, India must take beforehand. This project must be monitored directly by the Prime Minister's Office.
See, if you studied opium war the British/Americans made more money selling China only Opium then the total goods and services China exported during those days, and so China then ran trade deficits. So, Pakistan has money selling drugs, but it is black money, and so Afghanistan has made conscience decision to rather sale drugs then make food grain. Sadly, our people feel false sympathy and send them grains for free when they made decision to sale drugs having more money selling drugs.
 
I have said it many times that India has missed the 5th-gen bus. The best option is to buy 4 squadrons of Su-57 and convert AMCA into a 6th-gen jet incorporating features from YF-23.
Buy them from who? The Russians are unable to produce such quantities even for themselves. And if those planes were any good, do you think that China would allow it's vassal to sell them to you?
 
We can call it whatever gen we want, as none cares - only capability when it flies is what matters - my question is will AMCA Mk2 when it flies in 2035-2040, be more capable that F-22s currently operated by the US in 2024, which are also getting upgraded with conformal fuel tanks, better weapons and sensors etc.!

If so great, else we need to ensure it does and have a viable plan!
 
Eye-opener for comedians & fools who downgrade AMCA and call some 4.75 fighter jets 5th gen and suggest Bharat join that 4.75G fighter jet project. I have said several times that the F-35 is not a true 5th-gen fighter jet.
It's definitely more 5th than the KF21 which some people seem to want to join, which makes little sense as the Mark 1 around the time AMCA is ready will only have nested bays and not internal, so that's for sure 4++ gen.

Denying the F35 the 5th gen title is silly though. It's kind of THE fifth gen fighter. The most advanced compute, radars, sensors, stealth (perhaps only barring the F22 from the rear). It only lacks true Supercruise as it can only get there in tactical dashes, but eh, whatever, I'd rather be in that than anything else foreign countries call fifth gen flying today.
 
I have said it many times that India has missed the 5th-gen bus. The best option is to buy 4 squadrons of Su-57 and convert AMCA into a 6th-gen jet incorporating features from YF-23.
I mean that's somewhat the plan, AMCA MK2 will be a stepping stone to a more rapid 6th gen development. It's of course easier to work on 6th gen once you've already gotten to 5th gen. Jumping from Tejas to 6th gen would be a massive undertaking and miss a decade of AMCA deliveries.
 
Buy them from who? The Russians are unable to produce such quantities even for themselves. And if those planes were any good, do you think that China would allow it's vassal to sell them to you?
There's fair criticism to make of the Su-57, but I just think people should at least make them up to date. They just created a large facility for Su-57M serial production, as the VKS didn't want to take any more Su-57 with the AL41. The base stock Su-57 was basically hand made, the Su-57M is almost ready for serial production. And besides that they're offering for more production lines in India for ours, possibly being a quicker conversion of our Su-30 lines than starting new.
 
Buy them from who? The Russians are unable to produce such quantities even for themselves. And if those planes were any good, do you think that China would allow it's vassal to sell them to you?
Kindly atleast know ur stuff. Russia deemed Su-57 as too expensive for their requirements. They started working on Su-57M to reduce costs and mass produce them as too many components in Su-57 were custom built and very costly. Russians have always had the tech. It's just they are not Soviet Union. Their economy can't keep up and they don't even try to make the mistake of competing with US as USSR did.

The cost of owning and maintaining F-35 are huge. They are offensive weapons. Their cost do not justify their cost for India. Su-57 are a 10X better option even after ignoring the fact that we have S-400 so can't have F-35. So it was already considered by our planners.
 
It's definitely more 5th than the KF21 which some people seem to want to join, which makes little sense as the Mark 1 around the time AMCA is ready will only have nested bays and not internal, so that's for sure 4++ gen.

Denying the F35 the 5th gen title is silly though. It's kind of THE fifth gen fighter. The most advanced compute, radars, sensors, stealth (perhaps only barring the F22 from the rear). It only lacks true Supercruise as it can only get there in tactical dashes, but eh, whatever, I'd rather be in that than anything else foreign countries call fifth gen flying today.
He meant that f-35 is not a complete 5th aircraft in some ways like the radar and avionics must be advanced but it is still in testing phase another reason is that it is a multi role aircraft but it has not gained any superiority in neither attack, ground or even naval aircraft.

There are three version of F-35 but (A) version is considered best other than (B) and (C) version due to expensive maintenance and relability isues reported by USAF USN and other foreign operators.
 
Good as we got CCS approaval in 2024 for AMCA. Keep on doing R&D and we will have a plane technically much advanced by 2035. Good Job DRDO as 10 years is much lesser timeline for any fighter plane in the world but you guys are trying hard to work on these advanced technologies within such small time-frame of 10 years. We will make it.
 

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