Leveraging Su-30MKI Engine Expertise, HAL Expects a Critical Manufacturing Role for 120kN AMCA Engine

Leveraging Su-30MKI Engine Expertise, HAL Expects a Critical Manufacturing Role for 120kN AMCA Engine


Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is set to play a pivotal role in the landmark project to develop a new 120 KiloNewton (kN) thrust jet engine for India's futuristic Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

According to D.K. Sunil, the General Manager of Design at HAL, the state-owned aerospace giant will be a significant partner in the initiative, which is being spearheaded by the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) in collaboration with French engine manufacturer Safran.

While the exact details of HAL's involvement are yet to be finalised, its unique position as India's sole licensed producer of military jet engines makes it an indispensable part of this high-stakes defence program.

HAL's crucial role is backed by decades of hands-on experience in producing complex aero-engines.

The company's facilities have been manufacturing the Saturn AL-31F engines, which power the Indian Air Force's frontline Sukhoi Su-30 MKI fleet, and the Klimov RD-33 engines for the MiG-29 fighters.

This extensive background is further complemented by its current projects, including the development of a 25kN engine for unmanned aerial vehicles and the ongoing negotiations with America's General Electric to locally manufacture the F414 engine, which will power the Tejas Mk2 and the initial batches of the AMCA.

This diverse portfolio demonstrates HAL's established and growing expertise in advanced jet propulsion technology.

The most significant contribution from HAL is expected to be in the areas of manufacturing and large-scale assembly.

The company’s Engine Division in Bengaluru possesses the specialised infrastructure and skilled workforce required for the serial production of the advanced 120kN engine.

This capability, honed over years of producing engines like the 123kN thrust AL-31F, ensures that the AMCA program can meet its production timelines with high-quality, indigenously manufactured powerplants, aligning perfectly with the government’s ‘Aatmanirbhar Bharat’ (Self-Reliant India) policy.

Beyond just assembling the engine, HAL is anticipated to be deeply involved in producing sophisticated internal components. This includes critical parts such as high-pressure compressor blades, turbine stages, and complex afterburner systems.

HAL’s experience with specialised manufacturing techniques, including the use of single-crystal blade technology, will be vital for enabling the new engine to achieve supercruise—sustained supersonic flight without using fuel-guzzling afterburners—a key performance requirement for a fifth-generation stealth aircraft.

Furthermore, HAL will be responsible for the complex task of integrating the engine with the AMCA's stealth airframe and conducting rigorous testing to validate its performance and reliability.

This collaboration with Safran, a global leader in engine technology, also represents a major opportunity for India to absorb cutting-edge defence technologies.

Through this partnership, HAL will gain invaluable expertise in next-generation systems such as Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) for optimised performance, thrust-vectoring nozzles for superior maneuverability, and advanced designs for reducing the engine's heat signature to enhance stealth.

This transfer of knowledge is critical for strengthening India’s domestic defence industrial base and will serve as a foundation for designing entirely indigenous jet engines in the future.
 
Oh. It's a good opportunity for HAL to contribute to the AMCA project apart from fighter jet integration.
 
Self reliance in jet engine will be the landmark day for the Indian Airforce. It should be attained ASAP.
 
Amazing! This thread reads like it was written by someone conveniently overlooking the fact that Safran's 4th gen engine offer is worthless. I don't mean to be a pessimist, but Safran's repackaged 4th gen core without any VCE compared to RR's 6th gen with VCE is an absolute joke. The only 'advantage' is a 3 year shorter development timeline along with the 'French Connection.' Interestingly enough, this 'historic partnership' has yielded nothing but exploitation and fleecing in the past. (Kaveri revival, Rafale, etc.) In aerospace terms, 3 years is nothing compared to the decades spent developing advanced technology. It's too bad our MoD seems to be blindfolding themselves and hoping for the best, leaping into another 3 decades of technological inferiority and dependence.
 
Well, the irony is HAL, who had already manufactured 2000 AL31FP engines with a wet thrust of 123 KN for decades, is not able to design & develop an indigenous engine of even 90 KN like Kaveri. This looks a kind of sabotage to me since HAL has the capability & capacity to design such a heavy-class engine with required manufacturing capacity & workforce. The MOD should sit with HAL & GTRE along with DRDO to find out this lethargic and unacceptable mindset of all these behemoth research facilities for this attitude. It's not acceptable. How they have manufactured such a powerful engine like AL31FP for so long and are unable to develop a sub-rated indigenous engine is a huge concern.
 
HAL has not clarified whether it has infrastructure in place to assemble the proposed 5th gen AMCA engine. Only Safran can say whether HAL can contribute to assembling 5th gen engine having inspected their facility and experience with Shakti turbo-shaft engines.
 
HAL has not clarified whether it has infrastructure in place to assemble the proposed 5th gen AMCA engine. Only Safran can say whether HAL can contribute to assembling 5th gen engine having inspected their facility and experience with Shakti turbo-shaft engine.
 
Even HAL has no expertise in assembling components of jets and dreaming to contribute AMCA engine. Plz deliver Tejas MK1A first on time. Plz tell when will you fix ASTRA MK1 integration issue with Tejas MK1A because of which testing failed last month?
 
The prototype jet engine fabrication must be given to private players like godrej boyce, L&T consortium, etc., apart from the HAL. The government must reserve the production of AMCA Engines exclusively to the private sector.

After all, it's definitely good to have atleast one more unit producing all types of aircrafts and aero engines in India !🙂
 
HAL wanted to do everything and delay everything; it shouldn't be allowed to.
HAL is everything..... It's Govt. Of India..... I & you can't empower HAL's operations..... We are not given nothing(no power) to override them.....
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HAL wanted to do everything and delay everything; it shouldn't be allowed to.
Accepted..... No delays.... Let HAL, GTRE, DRDO, ADA, MIDHANI & all other private partners wherever required to accelerate the project very very fast without any delays can join hands for a win-win situation even with Saffron wherever required..... But dumping everything on foreign partner & wasting our resources & economy will put us in hell........
 
HAL has not clarified whether it has infrastructure in place to assemble the proposed 5th gen AMCA engine. Only Safran can say whether HAL can contribute to assembling 5th gen engine having inspected their facility and experience with Shakti turbo-shaft engine.
With a lot's of doubts & confusion, my clarification goes on whether Safran has mastered the fifth generation engine tech?
 
Amazing! This thread reads like it was written by someone conveniently overlooking the fact that Safran's 4th gen engine offer is worthless. I don't mean to be a pessimist, but Safran's repackaged 4th gen core without any VCE compared to RR's 6th gen with VCE is an absolute joke. The only 'advantage' is a 3 year shorter development timeline along with the 'French Connection.' Interestingly enough, this 'historic partnership' has yielded nothing but exploitation and fleecing in the past. (Kaveri revival, Rafale, etc.) In aerospace terms, 3 years is nothing compared to the decades spent developing advanced technology. It's too bad our MoD seems to be blindfolding themselves and hoping for the best, leaping into another 3 decades of technological inferiority and dependence.
Good thinking.... Whatever decision made should be responsible enough to go in parallel with our adversaries..... Saffron is good partner from the past for a long period but what about VCE & it's future technology.... Pak will simply buy all the technology's from Panda land(Manjal Aaru, Yellow river) with the aid from Gulf countries....

Our doctrine & strategy should get improved apart from supporting an Govt. Entity or a sole private ownership......

Only we could hear the cry's that a private ownership can do all magics but nothing has happened for the past seven decades......

For god's sake let all join hands & do something quickly to overpower our neighborhood.......
 
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