US Presses India for F-21 or F-15EX Deal Under MRFA in Return for Trade Concessions; IAF Likely to Resist Amid China-Pak Stealth Threat

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The Indian Air Force (IAF) is facing mounting pressure from the United States to select either Lockheed Martin's F-21 or Boeing's F-15EX fighter jet for its Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) competition.

This pressure comes amidst ongoing trade negotiations between the two countries, with the US implying concessions in exchange for an Indian purchase of American fighters.

However, the IAF has reservations about both aircraft due to concerns about their technological capabilities in the face of growing regional threats.

Both the F-21 and F-15EX, while modernized versions of older designs, lack the advanced stealth capabilities of fifth-generation fighter jets such as China's J-20 and J-35A.

With Pakistan potentially acquiring these Chinese stealth fighters, India is hesitant to invest in aircraft that could be outmatched technologically.

This concern is further compounded by the potential operational limitations imposed by the US on the sale of the F-35A, a more advanced stealth fighter.

The US Department of Defence has expressed a willingness to sell the F-35A to India, but with strict conditions regarding operational oversight and maintenance.

These conditions, which include regular inspections of Indian airbases and access to monitor the jets' usage, are seen by India as an infringement on its operational sovereignty.

Furthermore, Lockheed Martin's reluctance to establish an F-35 production line in India for a relatively small order of 110 jets adds another layer of complexity to the negotiations.

The IAF's MRFA tender specifically seeks a medium-weight fighter, making the heavy-category F-15EX a less attractive option. While the F-15EX is generally viewed more favorably within the IAF than the F-21, acquiring another heavy fighter like the Su-30MKI does not align with the IAF's current operational needs and strategy.

The IAF's preference remains for a medium-weight fighter that offers a balance of capabilities, cost-effectiveness, and logistical feasibility.

The IAF's reluctance to be swayed by political pressure in its selection of fighter jets demonstrates India's commitment to strategic autonomy in defence procurement. The Indian defence establishment remains wary of acquiring aircraft with restrictive operational oversight requirements.

Furthermore, investing in older-generation fighters while adversaries are deploying cutting-edge stealth platforms would put India at a disadvantage in future aerial engagements.

Despite US pressure, India remains steadfast in its requirements for the MRFA tender. The decision on which fighter jet to procure will be based on India's long-term strategic interests and operational needs, not on short-term diplomatic gains.

Unless the US offers a deal that includes more advanced platforms like the F-35A under acceptable terms, India is unlikely to favor American jets over other contenders in the MRFA competition. This situation highlights India's determination to maintain operational sovereignty while modernizing its air force with technologically superior platforms.
 
This is why U S delaying FJ engines very poor tactics.india also changed the strategy to collaborate with others than U S for new engine, also going with hf 44 marut advanced version with al-31 engine which was licensed to build
 
Choose F15EX… its stealth version is generations ahead from Su30mki…. India may get them without any strings attached if negotiated harder….
US will not give F35 without operational controls over it so thats not going to happen….
 
India wasted a lot of money on MQ-9 Reaper drones which cost 950 crore per unit. On the other hand, Iran indigenously developed it. So India has to choose the F-35B aircraft which will provide an edge in the Himalayan region because of VTOL capabilities. Nothing else. Mahindra Whap 8×8 is better than Stryker, and India should bring the Rafael assembly line to India and its M88 engine for the Navy twin-engine Tejas.
 
Choose F15EX… its stealth version is generations ahead from Su30mki…. India may get them without any strings attached if negotiated harder….
US will not give F35 without operational controls over it so thats not going to happen….
What about utilizing all the features. Modern fighters are network centric and if not integrated properly we won't be using it to its full potential. American fighters will come with strings attached with a long no to do list.
 
Mr. President never tells you to purchase a specific fighter. He is giving a very big offer to purchase USA weapons. Naturally, it is acceptable because USA-made weapons are more reliable and have more advanced technologies in the world, but the price is more than any other country. It is simple business: give and take. India should go for a nuclear aircraft carrier with F-35B.
 
We don't need LM to manufacture them in India. Reduce order size, three or four squadrons of F-35. Rest Su-57 from Russia with local production. I don't think any of Tejas Mk1A, Mk2, AMCA, or TEDBF are going to be produced in numbers with American engines. The indigenous engine is going to take time. In the meantime, we will have to depend on imports. But the production of indigenous aircraft should continue unabashedly, even at a slow rate, to maintain the expertise and further nourish it. We will need 4 squadrons of F-35 to fill fast the depleting strength and six to ten squadrons of Su-57 to replace, not upgrade, Su-30MKI with an old airframe. This is a necessity. We can allow them to inspect their aircraft on a specified airfield in the south. If possible, F-35 minus their avionics, radar, and SDR.
 
Choose F15EX… its stealth version is generations ahead from Su30mki…. India may get them without any strings attached if negotiated harder….
US will not give F35 without operational controls over it so thats not going to happen….
IAF will definitely won’t buy F15EX because of Super 30 upgrade, our only option is F21 or F/A-18 or buy F35 and live with stringent monitoring, like willingly fitting a camera inside the bedroom and letting the next door neighbor watch, we once had experience with INS Jalashua, the best option for us is EF Typhoon Tranche 5 LTE, Rafale is still 10 years away for F5, buying either of these will make Trump 😡😡😡.
 
India does not even have the required budget to buy fighter jets...look at the budget... it's only 1.8 lac cr for capital expenditure... India's defence budget is 1.9% of GDP, which was 2.4% before COVID... this government is reducing the defence budget at a constant rate... China and Pakistan both spend 3-4% of their GDP, and look at us... it's a joke... India should have spent at least 3% of their GDP on defence... but who cares... right now the main focus is freebies, and freebies also give votes... but national security doesn't give votes...
 
India needs planes urgently and India needs them NOW! Rafale is not a fifth generation fighter, then why favor it ahead of the F21? Plus Rafale's delivery rate is abysmal as it already has a packed order book. If LM, in collaboration with Tata, can deliver 42 planes a year, what's the problem? The IAF should stop lying about wanting to buy 5th gen planes. The F35 is off the table, China won't sell of any and Russia is unable to even produce enough Su 57s for itself. It only has 60 and has halted production due to supply chain issues. Getting the F21s in there will at least keep us safe from all non stealth planes. As for AMCA, it will be a miracle if it is ready for service by 2050. Look at the condition of the Tejas! The IAF and GOI need to stop lying to themselves and the nation.
 
Cancel MRFA

Instead buy 300-400 Tejas mk2 at the price of MRFA 30 billion dollars

We get 200 more jets in this case..

Win win
 
India does not even have the required budget to buy fighter jets...look at the budget... it's only 1.8 lac cr for capital expenditure... India's defence budget is 1.9% of GDP, which was 2.4% before COVID... this government is reducing the defence budget at a constant rate... China and Pakistan both spend 3-4% of their GDP, and look at us... it's a joke... India should have spent at least 3% of their GDP on defence... but who cares... right now the main focus is freebies, and freebies also give votes... but national security doesn't give votes...
Caught again posing negative thoughts. Stop, if you don't know. We are heading towards self reliance.
 
This probably means USA does not want to sell us the GE F404 or the GE F414 engines any further.
They want us to buy their F 16s or whatever - spend all our money buying their planes and Completely shelve our indigenous fighter jet program - Tejas.

We may mock HAL and IAF all we want, but HAL Tejas is one of the greatest acheivements of Indian Aerodynamic sector since India's birth.

Only thing we lack is the Engine. We must go full throttle to invest in Research and Manufacturing of aero engines.

And of course maintain peace in ALL of India's borders.
 
IAF will definitely won’t buy F15EX because of Super 30 upgrade, our only option is F21 or F/A-18 or buy F35 and live with stringent monitoring, like willingly fitting a camera inside the bedroom and letting the next door neighbor watch, we once had experience with INS Jalashua, the best option for us is EF Typhoon Tranche 5 LTE, Rafale is still 10 years away for F5, buying either of these will make Trump 😡😡😡.
F18 is a carrier based aircraft and Rafael M is already selected so no point buying it. F21 is really not needed since it does not matches the operational capabilities for IAF and Lockeed Martin won't set up a manufacturing plant for some few squadron's procurement. And F35 should be a big no since US will impose huge amount of conditions which may be not good in future for IAF'S operations.
 
Cancel MRFA

Instead buy 300-400 Tejas mk2 at the price of MRFA 30 billion dollars

We get 200 more jets in this case..

Win win
This time, I totally agree with you in case India dont have any offensive plans. But if we want to go offensive, go for 3-4 sqdrns of su57 with made in India and engine deal.
 

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