Hopes Dashed for Historic India-France Pinaka Rocket Artillery Deal as Paris Prioritizes Developing Its Own Homegrown Alternative

Hopes Dashed for Historic India-France Pinaka Rocket Artillery Deal as Paris Prioritizes Developing Its Own Homegrown Alternative


India's aspirations to export its domestically developed Pinaka Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher System (MBRLS) to France appear to have stalled, as Paris shifts focus towards creating its own advanced rocket artillery.

French defence authorities are reportedly prioritizing a national program to develop a system similar to the American High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), with aims to demonstrate the new technology by mid-2026.

This strategic direction, emphasising French defence self-reliance and offering European allies a non-American alternative, seems to have closed the door on earlier considerations of acquiring India's combat-proven Pinaka system.

The Pinaka system, created by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), had previously captured French interest. High-ranking French Army officials observed a demonstration of the system during a visit to India in 2024.

India promoted the Pinaka, particularly its Mark-II ER variant capable of reaching targets up to 90 km away and firing 12 rockets in under a minute, as a significantly more affordable option compared to the costly HIMARS.

Discussions regarding a potential sale were reportedly advanced in early 2025, with suggestions that the offer was even discussed at the highest levels between the Indian Prime Minister and the French President.

However, France has decisively moved towards developing a sovereign long-range precision strike capability. The French defence procurement agency, DGA, has initiated the Frappe Longue Portée Terrestre (FLP-T) program, tasking two industry groups – one led by Safran and MBDA, the other by Thales and ArianeGroup – to develop competing concepts. The goal is a tactical strike system with a minimum range of 150 km.

At the Eurosatory defence show in June 2024, the Safran-MBDA consortium displayed a model of their proposed 'Thundart' guided rocket, which they claim offers high precision and is designed as a purely European solution, free from US export controls. A test launch for this system is planned for mid-2026.

This push for a domestic system is driven by France's urgent need to replace its existing fleet of nine Lance-Roquettes Unitaire (LRU) systems, which are modified versions of the older M270 MLRS and are scheduled for retirement by 2027.

French military leaders, observing the effectiveness of long-range artillery like HIMARS in conflicts such as Ukraine, view this capability as crucial for modern warfare. Despite a budget allocation of €600 million through 2030 for the FLP-T program (aiming for 13 systems initially, increasing to 26 by 2035), France remains under pressure to meet the deadline.

While keeping options like HIMARS or systems from Israel and South Korea technically open, developing a French system avoids potential delays associated with relying on foreign production lines, particularly the strained US capacity for HIMARS which might push deliveries past 2027.

The conclusion of talks without a deal represents a setback for India's 'Make in India' initiative and its ambitions to become a major defence exporter. The Pinaka system has a proven operational record, having been used effectively during the 1999 Kargil War and deployed along India's sensitive borders. Armenia became the first international customer for Pinaka in 2022.

A sale to France would have been particularly significant, marking a first instance of India supplying major weaponry to one of its own largest arms providers. Ultimately, France's strategic preference for fostering a European defence ecosystem and possible reservations about integrating a non-NATO system into its forces likely influenced the decision against the Indian offer.
 
There is no problem if no sale to France, what inputs they gave for rejection ,can be used to develop advanced version faster then they can build their own, so they will end back to buying from us.
 
Talks about getting Rafale should fade as well, we should get 36 Rafales only when French buys 100 or more Pinaka.
 
Oh, France will likely get Reply in Engine development foreign partner Deal Plus MRFA Competition.
 
France is very clever country, only showed interest for us to buy their RAFALE and when we ordered 36 on them the interest suddenly fades away.
 
I knew this news would come very soon. EU countries are very selfish and only care about themselves. Unfortunately, India could not become self-sufficient in crucial sectors like defence, energy, semiconductors, etc., despite 77 years of independence. Now, India should put a condition in the MRFA deal that India will purchase Rafale only when France will build a jet engine also in India, and India will integrate its own radars, avionics, and weapons in Rafale. Otherwise, Russia is ready for every demand of India for the SU-57 deal.
 
Talks about getting Rafale should fade as well, we should get 36 Rafales only when French buys 100 or more Pinaka.
So you are saying that the govt or armed forces will give up their important requirement because they did not buy our Pinaka, it does not make any sense.
 
India has made very good progress in developing the Pinaka MBRL as there are different warhead variants that can be used based on the threat we face from armoured vehicles, troops and bases.

However it’s current maximum range is about 90km so far and we are developing rockets with a longer range but we need to 100% indigenously design, develop and manufacture rockets with a minimum range of 300km.
 
Sooner than later Europe will come to India for weapons. What matters is where is our 250 km plus range Pinaka? If we have it, I am sure many countries will line up. The West has the ego; it will take time to diminish.
 
LoL, lelo Rafale! Better cancel the deal and understand indigenous benefits.
What do you think India is doing with Tejas MK1A, MK2, TEDBF and AMCA jets?

Also we bought the Rafale jets because of its advanced technology, capabilities and weapons for our own benefit. This isn’t a quid pro quo deal of buying the Rafale jets and then they buy the Pinaka.
 
We should learn from them and also look for defense self reliance on fighter jets and submarines and not depend perpetually on them for weapons, for whatever the reason!
 
France is very clever country, only showed interest for us to buy their RAFALE and when we ordered 36 on them the interest suddenly fades away.
France never said that they will sell the Rafale jets and they would buy the Pinaka. We bought the Rafale jet because of its advanced technology, capabilities and the weapons it can use for our own benefit.
 
I knew this news would come very soon. EU countries are very selfish and only care about themselves. Unfortunately, India could not become self-sufficient in crucial sectors like defence, energy, semiconductors, etc., despite 77 years of independence. Now, India should put a condition in the MRFA deal that India will purchase Rafale only when France will build a jet engine also in India, and India will integrate its own radars, avionics, and weapons in Rafale. Otherwise, Russia is ready for every demand of India for the SU-57 deal.
Building jet engines in Bharat won't solve anything. 100% TOT for M88 is required.
 
No country will give you 100% TOT...India has to do it on its own but yes if France build jet engines in India then it will solve engine crysis in India and an ecosystem will build..thats all...
Forget just making the engines. France is ready for 100% ToT and 100% IPR. For a co-developed engine. We are already negotiating for that. Of course, right price will be required.
 
And here we are on the way to buy a fast-fading 4.5... IAF - GET SOME LIFE!
IAF has been asking for these planes since 2000. It is MoD which won't let them buy it and HAL/ADA who won't make anything. You call it fast fading but HAL will probably roll it out this year- after working on it for 2 decades. And it's still gonna use imported engines and other components and still won't be close to Rafale. And it will be ready for induction in 2040 optimistically and 2050 realistically. So blame HAL and ADA instead of bad mouthing our brave pilots.
 
So you are saying that the govt or armed forces will give up their important requirement because they did not buy our Pinaka, it does not make any sense.
Rafales are going outdated at the current scenario with advancement in 6th Gen Jets. Rafales will be obsolete once China & Pakistan start inducting their 6th & 5th Gen jets respectively.
 
Rightly Said Abishek. I personally feel, better to go for F15 latest version with agreement to integrate our seniors & weapon systems anytime, we want.
Be it F15 Ex or Rafale. Inducting any imported 4th Gen jet beyond 2030 is like Burning Tax Payers money as the 4th Gen jets will go obsolete in next decade with arrival of 6th Gen jets.
 
What do you think India is doing with Tejas MK1A, MK2, TEDBF and AMCA jets?

Also we bought the Rafale jets because of its advanced technology, capabilities and weapons for our own benefit. This isn’t a quid pro quo deal of buying the Rafale jets and then they buy the Pinaka.
Rafale was advanced 20 years ago. They will get obsolete in 10 years with arrival of 6th Gen jets.
 
India should focus on indigenous fighters and ditch the gold plated Rafales. Stop funding the french military industrial complex. better build ours.
 

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