Kaveri Engine: Latest Developments & Discussion

[Sandeep]

You sent fake news articles. Show me a single article with a source. You proved only that the news is fake by showing multiple articles with no name.

I sent you several links already which have all said the exact same thing that the engine has passed high altitude tests in Russia which have said the same thing. That has been confirmed by even Godrej and independent media links like Jane’s Defence along with defence officials. They are trying the engine on the Tejas jet because it passed its tests and are confident it’s safe to use and fly as they aren’t going to send a pilot or a jet to blow up in the sky. Accept the reality and truth because this website is saying the same thing as well.

 

[Akshat]

I sent you several links already which have all said the exact same thing that the engine has passed high altitude tests in Russia which have said the same thing. That has been confirmed by even Godrej and independent media links like Jane’s Defence along with defence officials. They are trying the engine on the Tejas jet because it passed its tests and are confident it’s safe to use and fly as they aren’t going to send a pilot or a jet to blow up in the sky. Accept the reality and truth because this website is saying the same thing as well.

Jane’s defense is known to lie about India. All your links have mostly copied them. Accept the reality and the truth that DRDO is lying. This site said the same thing about mk2 as well. DRDO is a master in spreading these lies.

 

[Bhishma]

It’s on record. I have shared proof many times. Official parliamentary records show that billions have been spent on Kaveri. Even DRDO officials are on record saying the same.

a quick search on the wiki, this is what I found

In its annual report for 2010–11, The Comptroller and Auditor General of India noted that ₹18.92 billion (US$226.7 million) had been spent on development

Now are you going to backtrack and say you meant billions in rupees ? LIAR

 

[Bhishma]

They would do anything to save their a$$. The engine hasn’t passed anything. Show me a single official saying it passed anything.

pulled this from DRDO's official site:

Kaveri Engine
Kaveri engine is a low bypass twin spool turbo fan engine of 80 kN thrust class designed and developed to propel Indian Light Combat Aircraft Tejas. Concurrent Certification coverage was provided by RCMA(E). Certification Methodology for Fighter Class engine has been evolved forRaw material, Components, Systems, LRUs and Full engine level qualification for the first time in India.

9 Shri RK Mishra Scientist F RCMA (Engines), CEMILAC, Marathahalli Colony Post, Bangalore - 560 037 080-25241488
080-25240075 (Fax)
rkmishra[dot]drdo[at]gmail[dot]com Member

Shall we admit now that you are just a foreign lobby liar spreading misinformation ?

 

[Pramkumar]

They must use MIG29 with Kaveri, which is twin engine and similar. the kaveri will give the required input with the ned of life MIG 29.

 

[Pramkumar]

Eh, getting the engine up to 90 kN would require, in essence, a new core. The present core can probably just about reach 75-ish kN wet thrust, which is what they are targeting. Getting 90 kN wet thrust would need around 55 kN dry thrust, which isn't happening with the present core.

learn from chineesh and Turks. Turks Khaan fighter to get a engine which is lower than the HTFE40

 

[Prit]

They must use MIG29 with Kaveri, which is twin engine and similar. the kaveri will give the required input with the ned of life MIG 29.

May be they're planning a mid life engine change in Tejas with Kaveri rather than GE one. Hence testing on Tejas. Mig29 is double engine so it's ideal for testing but it is also reaching its end of life and will not need any engine change. Hence using it is kind of a temporary solution with no future aim.

 

[Akshat]

pulled this from DRDO's official site:

Kaveri Engine
Kaveri engine is a low bypass twin spool turbo fan engine of 80 kN thrust class designed and developed to propel Indian Light Combat Aircraft Tejas. Concurrent Certification coverage was provided by RCMA(E). Certification Methodology for Fighter Class engine has been evolved forRaw material, Components, Systems, LRUs and Full engine level qualification for the first time in India.

9 Shri RK Mishra Scientist F RCMA (Engines), CEMILAC, Marathahalli Colony Post, Bangalore - 560 037 080-25241488
080-25240075 (Fax)
rkmishra[dot]drdo[at]gmail[dot]com Member

Shall we admit now that you are just a foreign lobby liar spreading misinformation ?

RCMA is a DRDO lab. So you have just proven my point that DRDO is the only one who is saying that this engine works.

Shall we admit now that you are just a DRDO apologist spreading misinformation?

 

[Akshat]

a quick search on the wiki, this is what I found

In its annual report for 2010–11, The Comptroller and Auditor General of India noted that ₹18.92 billion (US$226.7 million) had been spent on development

Now are you going to backtrack and say you meant billions in rupees ? LIAR

What else did I mean? It’s clearly written that billions have been spent. CAG himself said it and you just posted the proof. So you are the LIAR here who has just exposed himself,

 

[Prit]

Jane’s defense is known to lie about India. All your links have mostly copied them. Accept the reality and the truth that DRDO is lying. This site said the same thing about mk2 as well. DRDO is a master in spreading these lies.

Janes is lying, DRDO is lying. And Akshat's written statements are true. 😂

 

[Kunung]

Why can't they use this engine for SEPECAT Jaguar. That jet's engine thrust is significantly lower than Kaveri engine. They can use Kaveri if they can improve reliability.

 

[Sudha]

From the initial stage itself it should have been a joint private public sector effort. In fact to increase the output it seems the private sector has contributed the tech. GTRE & DRDO personnel are government units after all just making sure of their salaries without any hyper interest in performqnce.

 

[Akshat]

learn from chineesh and Turks. Turks Khaan fighter to get a engine which is lower than the HTFE40

Kuch bhi? Kaan is using F110 which has ~75 kN dry thrust. It has 130 kN of wet thrust. And it is using 2 of them. And HTFE produces 25 kN dry thrust. So kuch to dekh ke bol.

 

[Akshat]

Good, but the million dollar question is - when?

How dare you to ask DRDO for a timeframe?

 

[Pink Panther]

Eh, getting the engine up to 90 kN would require, in essence, a new core. The present core can probably just about reach 75-ish kN wet thrust, which is what they are targeting. Getting 90 kN wet thrust would need around 55 kN dry thrust, which isn't happening with the present core.

We will be working with RR on either EJ200 CORE or something linked to it for Kaveri very soon.

 

[Akshat]

We will be working with RR on either EJ200 CORE or something linked to it for Kaveri very soon.

RR doesn't have the core tech itself 🤣🤣It imports it from France.

 

[Anant]

learn from chineesh and Turks. Turks Khaan fighter to get a engine which is lower than the HTFE40

What nonsense! The Kaan's engine is the F110, the same base model as that used in the F-16. From memory, the two engines on the Kaan have a combined wet thrust of over 250 kN. Even with the planned new engine we have, two engines would give some 230-ish kN.

 

[Pink Panther]

RR doesn't have the core tech itself 🤣🤣It imports it from France.

France's 😭😭😭 WW II era Core tech, we are not interested, only advanced tech like EJ200 from RR and MTU or GE or Pratt & Whitney.

 

[Aloo]

RR doesn't have the core tech itself 🤣🤣It imports it from France.

No they don't.

RR along with GE, P&W is leader of jet engine technology. They have 2nd biggest share in civil market. RR & GE were runner up for F36 engine with their F 136.

Turkey wants their help to develop Kaan engine. Japan almost signed contract to develop engine with their assistance befor joining Tempest.

RR assembles full engine in their factory with only forging done before, that too not in UK. UK is self sufficient in jet engine technology due to RR being among pioneers

 

[Aloo]

RCMA is a DRDO lab. So you have just proven my point that DRDO is the only one who is saying that this engine works.

Shall we admit now that you are just a DRDO apologist spreading misinformation?

Their word is to be accepted as RCMA is the certification agency. It involves scientific process with test data, cannot be just ignored. Need substantial proof or a new audit to deny that.

CAG report of DRDO lying would be invalid coz generic. It will be applicable if it specifically calls RCMA certification of Kaveri false.

 

[Bhishma]

RCMA is a DRDO lab. So you have just proven my point that DRDO is the only one who is saying that this engine works.

Shall we admit now that you are just a DRDO apologist spreading misinformation?

Mr. genius, RCMA is entrusted with certification, which comes under MoD which comes under GOI. What else do you expect, get a fcking nobody commenter from internet to do the certifications ? You have the RTI act, if they are faking, you have the right to question. You have the right to cross check their data, expose them & take them to court. Our democracy gives you that right. That is if you are an Indian citizen. If you are a Paki/Chini pysops agent, obviously you cant do that. You asked for officials, you have been the given the officials. what are you going to do ? Nothing. you have no credibility. Why dont you go watch cricket, fap, drink beer and call it a day ?

 

[Akshat]

No they don't.

RR along with GE, P&W is leader of jet engine technology. They have 2nd biggest share in civil market. RR & GE were runner up for F36 engine with their F 136.

Turkey wants their help to develop Kaan engine. Japan almost signed contract to develop engine with their assistance befor joining Tempest.

RR assembles full engine in their factory with only forging done before, that too not in UK. UK is self sufficient in jet engine technology due to RR being among pioneers

I think you need to update your facts buddy.

In the F136 program, RR was giving their LiftSystem, which was required for vertical take off. The actual engine had little contribution from RR UK. RR's share was only 40%.

In the Eurojet consortium also, RR had a share of 33%, which increased to about 44% when they later acquired a company from Italy. So the ~40% number is consistent.

In fact, if you look at even the Adour engines, the compressors are imported from France.As of now, or even in the last few decades, there is not a single engine which was entirely developed by RR (talking about operational fighter jet engines). UK is anything but self sufficient in engine technology.

 

[Akshat]

France's 😭😭😭 WW II era Core tech, we are not interested, only advanced tech like EJ200 from RR and MTU or GE or Pratt & Whitney.

Well we Indians clearly are interested. Don't know about you. That's why our P M included it in his joint statement.

 

[Avesh]

Well we Indians clearly are interested. Don't know about you. That's why our P M included it in his joint statement.

Yes on RR and GE, we stopped looking at WW2 Tech, not interested anymore.

 

[Fresh Water]

Building a test platform would expedite many other possibilities.
Many of those possibilities are beyond most of us at the moment.

Build the facility, and also let the private sector use it to test their innovations.