We already make this engine in India as part of MIG-29K maintenance, this engine is going to replace the old RD-33 engine in MIG-29’s as part of UPG upgrade, this engine is a bigger engine compared to F414 in size but produce very little thrust.
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DRDO can’t do it even by 2098-2099
The Safran audit was nothing to be confident about. In fact the program was shut down after that and dry Kaveri launched. The audit said that the entire hot section is useless and Kaveri can only be used in LCA with M88’s hot core.
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Do not bet & lose money on it. Involving Bharat's private sector will make the engine ready for mk1a by 2030.
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90 kN thrust isn't happening, atleast not with the present core. The present core allows a dry thrust of 45-50 kN. With that, assuming you want decent maintenance, reliability and fuel efficiency, we would be looking at 75-80 kN of wet thrust or thereabouts. With some changes, we could possibly get it to 85-ish kN. Anything beyond that would require a reworked core.
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They said give GTRE a flying test bed. No need for Safran.
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Thank @Raghav Patel for the detailed clarification provided. The success we were all anticipating has generated a significant amount of enthusiasm among everyone involved.
NATO disinformation campaign seems to be working.
The comment I replied to specifically said ‘DRDO do it alone’.
And DRDO messes up even when paired with private sector. Look at ATAGS or WHAP for example.
No one said that. You don’t throw in good money after bad money.
NO, RD33 Series3 older platform is being made by HAL now. Sea Wasp is the latest engines used in MIG35's and not sold to any countries still...
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Some unidentified noise rectified only after safran auditing. They did good work.
Yes MIG-29K has this very same enginen, we signed an agreement with Russia a while ago to license make this engine in India for MIG-29 UPG upgrade, this is very old news, Code name of RD-33MK engine is Sea Wasp.
No this is French disinformation campaign to stop us getting GE F414 engine.
Search for the keywords MIG-29K and RD-33MK in google, you will get the answer.
Let’s license make AL41F1 engine and fit them in every single jet we make and be done, we don’t need any other engine,nit’s a much reliable engine compared to AL-31F1, it produces 108KN dry thrust and 177KN with after burner, this engine is plenty enough for a single engine jet.
Looks like you wrote the report on behalf of Safran.
We actually threw good money in Mirage upgrade. Also when Dassault and Safran did not fulfil their offset obligations. Also on FGFA. If we had put even part of these money in Kaveri and Tejas, by now we would have had 5-6 squadrons of Tejas and lot of lives lost in MiG crashes would have been saved. Kaveri ... we know it will power UCAV. Beyond that, it depends on the level of funding. French hates these developments to the core. To add salt to their injury, we are going for significant ToT in GE F414.
No one is gonna give core tech to us till we get at least very close to it. Not the Europeans, not the Americans. Russian will share the tech, but they are no longer leaders in most of the space.
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Make the engine extreeme low weight and more tough at the exhaust and low pressure turbine chamber and high pressure turbine chamber and high pressure after burner chamber. It shall increase thrust and decrease weight inching towards thrust to weight ratio for super cruise . 👍🏻 . Use Honey Comb 3d print technology for making engine shell & all chambers of lowpressure and high pressure and exhaust nozzles.
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