Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) News and Discussion

Classic PSU evasive maneuver. Propose to develop something radical and completely new so that the ensuing scope creep can then be employed to justify ridiculously long development cycles. Quite frankly it's now becoming boring, they need to work on new reasons as the current Modus Operandi is getting stale as its painfully apparent they are trying to build up an alibi for the delays in the project, which the project will invariably suffer.
 
Tell exact timeline for all projects. Give detail when tejasmk2 will fly. No publicity trends. Govt must release fund in time-bound manner. Then they will stop talking and cheating.
 
Dream merchants are at it again. Shameless ADA stull havent learnt a thing all the while the decades old on going projects are rotting on whiteboard.
 
India doesn't need a unmanned AMCA jet at all. They first need to focus on delivering a manned version which is very complex and difficult to achieve in the first place. Also any unmanned jet or drone is always at risk that the enemy will hack, disrupt, block or use any means to crash the jet or it can be hijacked by the enemy who want to steal any advanced technology, equipment and stealth material that they might want to use for their own programs or they can sell it on the black market or to other countries who are also interested in the technology. India should not develop a unmanned version at all but they can use AI or softwares to program the jet to return home if the pilot can't fly the jet successfully because he's unconscious or injured so we can create and develop some type of unmanned or pilotless control of the jet for certain scenarios. So India shouldn't develop a specific type or variant of the AMCA that's unmanned at all.
 
looks like this org is full of jokers. chalna ata nahi uadne ke sapne dek rahe hai.
 
This article along with the one "Best is the enemy of good" seems to be motivated.

So, I say do not shy away from developing the unmanned variant.
  1. The unmanned variant might be easier to develop.
  2. It's a great publicity for the new aircraft.
  3. Increases the possibility of a sale in the global market.
 
Let us first finish with manned AMCA and not waste time on next generation dreams. We are already late on AMCA and it is time funding issues are sorted. We need our own aero engine too. Only when we are almost self reliant, we can think of something else.
 
MANIVANNAN N said:
Tell exact timeline for all projects. Give detail when tejasmk2 will fly. No publicity trends. Govt must release fund in time-bound manner. Then they will stop talking and cheating.
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There was an exact timeline given for Tejas Mk2. August 2022. And it was missed.
 
by the time the Manned amca is complete the demand will be for unmanned adca ..They are aware of their capabilities !!!
 
Superpower Bharat said:
Only 2 things in my mind.. either this is just a mis information. ADA has not tell anything like that. Or we heard this thing about AMCA MK2 that it will be optionally maned aircraft. This article is just recreating that news to ADA's present statements.
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AMCA approved just today 😵‍💫
 
ADA needs to focus only of getting AMCA manned version working and than it could be considered. Get 1st prototype in Air before ask for any deviation.
 
Focus should be on both manned and unmanned, but Manned should be priorty, are they done with it. may be the design is done, can all the ducks in order for it to developed, tested and produced.
 

CCS Approves ₹15,000 Crore for AMCA, Two Variants to Feature Supersonic Cruising and AI-Powered Flight​

India's ambitions in the aerospace sector received a major boost with the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) approving a ₹15,000 crore budget for the nation's 5th generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program.

Led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the CCS decision signals India's continued determination to strengthen its indigenous defense capabilities and reduce reliance on foreign imports.

The AMCA represents a transformative leap in India's aerospace development, joining the Tejas Mk1A and MkII programs as part of the country's expanding portfolio of domestically produced fighter jets. This landmark project spotlights India's drive to become a major player in advanced combat aircraft design.

Two-Phase Development​

The AMCA development will proceed in two phases. Phase-I centers on the AMCA MKI variant, powered by GE F-414 engines with a 98kN thrust. In a significant boost for India's manufacturing sector, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will produce these engines locally. The Indian Air Force (IAF) has already pledged to procure 40 AMCA MKI units, a vote of confidence in India's defense industry.

Phase-II will unveil the AMCA MK2, featuring radical performance enhancements. A powerful new engine in the 110-120kN class will allow the MK2 to achieve supersonic cruising speeds without the need for afterburners.

Moreover, cutting-edge avionics and pilot functions will incorporate artificial intelligence (AI) for advanced tasks like hands-free takeoff and landing, optimizing pilot efficiency and aircraft performance in combat situations.

Defence Modernization and Self-Reliance​

"The AMCA program is a cornerstone of India's defense modernization and embodies our commitment to 'Atmanirbhar Bharat'," stated a defence analyst based in New Delhi. "By developing advanced technologies in-house, we not only strengthen our armed forces but also fuel our economic growth."

The AMCA promises to deliver advanced stealth characteristics, supercruise capabilities, and potent sensor suites, positioning it as a formidable adversary in the skies. India's resolute push towards self-reliance in critical defense technologies promises to shape the country's strategic profile for decades to come.
 

AMCA Development: India's Phased Approach to Next-Gen Fighter Supremacy​

India's quest for an advanced, indigenously developed fighter jet took a major step forward with the government's approval of funds for the ambitious Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program.

This initiative, spearheaded by the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), aims to deliver a next-generation fighter jet that will form a critical part of the Indian Air Force's (IAF) future combat capabilities.

Funding and Initial Phase​

The initial funding of ₹15,000 crores will focus on establishing a new AMCA assembly line, a critical step towards turning blueprints into reality. This involves acquiring specialized machinery and materials to begin the production of the first prototypes.

ADA and HAL are pursuing an ambitious timeline, aiming to commence ground testing of the first AMCA prototype by early 2027, with flight trials starting in 2028.

The goal is to manufacture one prototype annually, with the final two prototypes incorporating near or pre-production standard components to streamline the transition to full-scale production.

AMCA MkI: Paving the Way​

The AMCA MkI is projected to achieve Initial Operational Capability (IOC) in early 2032. The IAF has committed to procuring at least 40 MkI units, forming the first two squadrons.

This initial phase will be crucial for testing, tactical development, and identifying areas for potential improvement. The learnings from these first squadrons will pave the way for the refined and even more potent AMCA MkII.

AMCA Mk II: The Future of India's Air Power​

The upgraded AMCA MkII envisions a collaboration with France's SAFRAN for the joint development of a more powerful engine.

Production of the MkII is anticipated to start after 2035, with initial orders expected to surpass 100 units. The MkII will gradually replace India's aging Sukhoi-30MKI fleet, which will reach the end of their service life around 2040.

Implications for India's Defence​

The AMCA program represents a significant advancement for India's drive towards self-sufficiency in fighter jet development.

This dedicated funding and structured roadmap signal not only the ability to produce a game-changing domestic aircraft but also India's increasing technological prowess on the global stage.

As the AMCA takes flight in the coming years, the IAF will usher in a new era of cutting-edge combat capabilities.
 
Quoting from twitter

"Young People can save my post that ADA is just going to waste & enjoy picnic on huge budget of Rs 6500 cr + Rs 15,000 for LCA MK2 & AMCA. Both projects will see massive delay & cost overruns

Squadron level service entry of LCA MK2 will happen only after 2035, for AMCA after 2050"

ADA HAL guys keep winning free fund
 
Frank said:
Quoting from twitter

"Young People can save my post that ADA is just going to waste & enjoy picnic on huge budget of Rs 6500 cr + Rs 15,000 for LCA MK2 & AMCA. Both projects will see massive delay & cost overruns

Squadron level service entry of LCA MK2 will happen only after 2035, for AMCA after 2050"

ADA HAL guys keep winning free fund
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No need to save your post, my friend. Any Tannu-Deepak-Harinder who has been follwiing the progress of Tejas project knows AMCA is also going the same way.
HAL's incompetence combined with an import loving military - perfect recipe for another Tejas seasons-2 coming soon to a wikipedia near you.
 
Good after Long wait , Now Make Final call on Slecting Foreign partner for Engine development of 110kN to 120kN . without Indigenous Engine cant develop AMCA-MK2 Variant
 
when did Safran was finalised for joint development of Engine for AMCA , yet dcision havent taken..
 
Congratulations... Govt of India has done its duty... Concerned Govt and private sector companies should maintain their capacity and faith in Govt and Indian people... 2027 is very long time, atleast AMCA should operate first flight by then..I believe it will be a more advanced aircraft than Turkey's KAAN and South Korea's KFX 50. India is at the forefront of both these aircraft upgrades...KAAN & FX50 they have already developed the aircraft with the help of US companies. But most of the components in India's 5th generation aircraft are indigenously researched and manufactured...
 
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