Safran Commits to 100% Local Supply Chain for 120-140kN AMCA Engine, Promising to End All Foreign Dependency

Safran Commits to 100% Local Supply Chain for 120-1A40kN AMCA Engine, Promising to End All Foreign Dependency


In a significant boost to India's defence self-reliance goals, French aerospace giant Safran has proposed to co-develop a next-generation jet engine for India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program.

The offer includes a 100% transfer of technology (ToT) to manufacture the engine entirely in India, promising to establish a complete domestic supply chain and end all foreign dependency for its components.

This landmark proposal, which follows initial talks with India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), could lead to a co-development pact valued at approximately $7 billion.

Such a deal would fundamentally reshape Indo-French defence cooperation and provide a powerful, indigenous engine for India's future fifth-generation stealth fighter.

Sources familiar with the negotiations report that Safran's blueprint is built on a fully localized supply chain. Every part of the high-performance engine, from its complex single-crystal turbine blades to its advanced digital engine control units, would be manufactured within India.

This commitment aims to empower Indian entities, including public-sector firm Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and private players like Tata Advanced Systems or Godrej Aerospace.

This approach marks a clear departure from past collaborations, such as the Rafale's M88 engine, which retained some import dependencies. The new proposal aligns directly with the Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) strategic push for sovereign manufacturing capabilities.

The AMCA, a twin-engine stealth fighter, requires a high-thrust powerplant to achieve its key performance goals, including supercruise (supersonic flight without an afterburner) and a combat radius of 1,500 km.

The interim General Electric F414 engine, which will power the initial AMCA Mk1 prototypes, lacks the 120-140kN thrust required for the final Mk2 version. Safran's proposed engine is designed to meet this demand, incorporating cutting-edge features like 3D thrust vectoring for superior maneuverability and advanced ceramic materials to withstand extreme temperatures.

This French proposal is one of several options India is evaluating to overcome the critical challenge of jet engine technology.

The AMCA program, managed by the DRDO's ADA, is India's most ambitious aviation project. While the American GE-F414 engine has been secured for the Tejas Mk2 and the initial AMCA prototypes, the deal with Safran, or a competitor like the UK's Rolls-Royce, is crucial for powering the definitive, more advanced AMCA Mk2.

The DRDO is expected to seek approval from the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for this high-value project. The initial requirement is estimated at 400-600 engines for the AMCA Mk2 fleet, which is projected to enter service after 2030.

However, India's total long-term need is projected to be over 1,100 engines by 2035. This massive volume would also cover the requirements for the Navy's Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), which is being developed for India's aircraft carriers.

A full transfer of technology could create a robust domestic aerospace ecosystem, generate thousands of high-tech jobs, and dramatically reduce the lifecycle and maintenance costs of the fighter fleets.

While supporters have hailed the proposal as a "game-changer" that could bridge the technology gap from the indigenous Kaveri engine program, discussions are ongoing.

Initial talks with GTRE are reportedly focused on establishing a clear roadmap to validate the 100% local manufacturing plan, with initial tests potentially starting by 2027.
 
Safran not russisn co. Surely it will not develop 120thrust engine within 12yrs. Because it not experience in high thrust engine. But russians havevgood knowledge. Only to get contract itvgives short time line.
 
None in the west can make jet engines that can match the Russian engines. But the west has mastered the art of lobbying, propaganda and marketing. They are very good at selling even that mediocre products at a premium
We are forgetting the Rafale manufacturers were involved in some unethical practices. Their jets fail to match the performance of our Sukhois and Migs. Yet we still persist with them . The French have been evicted from it's ex colonies inwest Africa and a pro French Leader has to flee from Madagascar. Yet we persist with France for supply of critical things like war planes. Hope our authorities open their eyes. Jai Hind.
 
Lol russian engines are superior in what sense. See the comparison between AL-51 (Su-57 engine) vs F135 (F-35) its day and night. Western tech will be superior because they have more allocation to r&d, more technological base to support and mature engine development. Russia was inpar with western counterpart but now it is not. Chinese aviation industry is the only one that can compete with these western part because they have a strong manufacturing unit and a large allocation of money for r&d. Basically they can just bruteforce the engine development and turbine blade tech, they will mostly outrun western counterpart in a decade more so. India doesnt even have a flying test bed so india atleast need 10 years for getting everything from scratchup
 
If it's true then its good news. If it is a marketing ploy then I wish you good luck.
Presently India needs cash.
 
How can Safran produce a 120 KN engine when France itself don't have this powerful engine in French airforce ? Indian brains i think is faded... wake up soon
 
Safran not russisn co. Surely it will not develop 120thrust engine within 12yrs. Because it not experience in high thrust engine. But russians havevgood knowledge. Only to get contract itvgives short time line.
Japan already has a 140kn engine offered to india but we will sleep till the offer becomes obsolete. As usual.
 
How can Safran produce a 120 KN engine when France itself don't have this powerful engine in French airforce ? Indian brains i think is faded... wake up soon
Nobody said they have produced anything. Before anything is made, someone has thought about it. Thinking is the critical element. We should be thankful we have been chosen for enlightenment and are being given the opportunity to design and create this product.
 
Super Alloys are alloys that can withstand high temperatures ( over 1400 C ) encountered inside Jet engines, turbines etc. In 1975 ( that’s 50 yrs ago ) I had left India at 21 after designing a large part of the Super Alloys Plant in H’Bad for DRDO. That plant was built as per my design which saved the Govt. of India over $2 million compared to importing rquipment from France or Germany. In 2007 at Kalam’s invitation I visited that plant in H’Bad, its name changed to MiDhaNi and found that the special plants I had designed over 30 yrs earlier were working well. Three years ago an ex Director of DRDO told me that MiDhaNi is one of the best plants it operates. There is far too much nepotism and incompetence in ADA and DRDO ( now monopolized by unsophisticated So. Indians ).
 
Why can’t the Kaveri engine deliver its designed thrust after 30 years of development ? Has there been any formal enquiry yet of the root causes and the lack of competence at GTRE, ADA, HAL & DRDO in general ?
 
It is understandable for people to question the engine powerplant that France has not yet acquired. But with Indian mindset and the French assistance Indian engineers will have a better chance to make it happen.
 
Why can’t the Kaveri engine deliver its designed thrust after 30 years of development ? Has there been any formal enquiry yet of the root causes and the lack of competence at GTRE, ADA, HAL & DRDO in general ?
We desperately need people like you to lead such enquiries. At worst we will have to learn to cope with some resignations of tall poppies. The earlier the better, after all jai hind nationalism is still strong at best we may open up their minds and use them to head other inquiries into other bottle necks.
I still believe the UK is the premier authority when it comes to metallurgical expertise. Thank you for highlighting the brilliance of previous 21 year olds. If they had been competently accepted and promoted we would not have faced the brain drain.
 
France will sell the design and blueprint which are the fruition of their expertise and years long R & D to India and India will eulogize and be orgasmic that it is "INDIGENOUS"

JEEZ
 
France will sell the design and blueprint which are the fruition of their expertise and years long R & D to India and India will eulogize and be orgasmic that it is "INDIGENOUS"

JEEZ

Exactly what I'd said on another thread (copy-pasted below):

"As regards date of roll out being fixed at mid-2026, that's a distant dream and has as much chance as a snowball in hell. If they stick to timelines, then the product is NOT a joint venture, nor made in India, but, merely assembled in India to start with and subsequently 'jointly-produced' , which is where 100% ToT raises its head. "

So, we get suckered and tom-tom to the world that we made it !!!!!!!!
 

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