Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) News and Discussion

Will Pakistan get KAAN?
We don't know for sure how successful the Turkish program turns out eventually. There is still an immense amount of work before it becomes operational. I must say however that the Turkish have managed their program far better than India. Whether Pakistan eventually acquires the KAAN remains to be seem, the engjnes, avionics and many sub-systems will have to be imported and might come with restrictions.
 
Bad omen already for AMCA as it's chota Chetan LCA crashed today. Only saving grace being pilot ejected safely. Now who will buy this aircraft and AMCA is just another example.

BTW this LCA accident happens after it participated in live fire practice. Imagine when there is real war. Looks like they will drop like flies when confronted by a better fighter.
 
Bad omen already for AMCA as it's chota Chetan LCA crashed today. Only saving grace being pilot ejected safely. Now who will buy this aircraft and AMCA is just another example.

BTW this LCA accident happens after it participated in live fire practice. Imagine when there is real war. Looks like they will drop like flies when confronted by a better fighter.
There's been a crash with the F35, F16, Rafale and others around the world. People don't stop buying them and we still don't know the exact cause of it. There was some talk that there was an engine issue but more will be revealed in time.
 
So although the project got official sanction just recently there was some preparation in the background with sourcing the materials and manufacturing the metal that would be needed which seems like some common sense still exists with HAL. Now they just have to manufacture all of the parts and equipment along with the technology as quick as possible so that they can catch up with the delays.
 
We don't know for sure how successful the Turkish program turns out eventually. There is still an immense amount of work before it becomes operational. I must say however that the Turkish have managed their program far better than India. Whether Pakistan eventually acquires the KAAN remains to be seem, the engjnes, avionics and many sub-systems will have to be imported and might come with restrictions.
Very doubtful as most of the technology and advanced equipment is supplied by the USA and NATO allies who will definitely veto Turkey from selling their jet to Pakistan. The only reason why Turkey have managed to quickly develop their jet is because of a lot of help from the USA and NATO. We are developing the AMCA entirely by ourselves.
 
Take this news with a large lorry of salt. Nothing will move for another 3 years at 6
 
There's been a crash with the F35, F16, Rafale and others around the world. People don't stop buying them and we still don't know the exact cause of it. There was some talk that there was an engine issue but more will be revealed in time.
So you are comparing LCA light weight fighter development (with imported engine, radar and other parts total 60%) with the most sophisticated fighter jet development.
 

India's AMCA Project Spells Trouble for Russia's Su-57 and Su-75 Ambitions​

The Security Committee of the Council of Ministers of India has embarked on an ambitious venture: the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) project. With a dedicated investment of 1.8 billion dollars, India is bolstering its aerospace capabilities while marking a significant shift in its defence strategy.

The AMCA project highlights India's determination to become self-sufficient in defence, moving away from its traditional reliance on Russian military technology.

India and Russia have shared a long history of defence cooperation, with India utilizing primarily Soviet-era equipment and technology. However, recent developments signal a changing dynamic.

Russia's introduction of the Su-75 Checkmate, a fifth-generation fighter aircraft aimed at markets like India, has been met with an underwhelming response. India's reduced enthusiasm for Russian hardware highlights its desire to diversify its military procurement and nurture its own defence industry.

The AMCA project embodies India's ambition to plot its own path in military aviation. With substantial investment in developing a fifth-generation fighter jet, India seeks to both reduce its reliance on foreign suppliers and greatly enhance its defence capabilities.

The AMCA promises to be a highly adaptable platform, featuring advanced avionics, stealth technology, and unmatched firepower, all designed to meet the evolving needs of the Indian Air Force.

India's decision to develop the AMCA has far-reaching strategic consequences. By building domestic capabilities in military aviation, India bolsters its national security and cements its position as a sovereign power on the global stage.

Further, the AMCA's development will increase India's standing as a credible partner in defence cooperation, fostering potential collaborations with other nations in aerospace technology.
 
As if AMCA is ready next month, realistically we can expect AMCA between 2035-2040 if all goes well.
 
Only thing Russia can offer is a ssn design and 200 mw nuclear reactor and space technologies . I dont think, they have much to offer other than these. THEY havent invested in anything for a longtime.

And probably some military transport aircraft designs.
 
What a joke 🤣🤣🤣 .. mark my comment , sooner or later iaf have to buy small number of foreigner 5th gen aircraft because pakistan will get 5th gen aircraft before 2030 and about amca we will be very lucky if we see amca in iaf sarvice before 2040 ...
 
It started long time ago by Russian President Putin itself.

SU-57 withered away when Russia took $350 millions to define Indian FGFA concept (SU-75 derivative) but did not let Indian IAF or any government employee go near the SU-57 prototype.
Russia asked for billions to develop Indian FGFA and India refused it.
Russia failed the trust test right there and then.

Su-75 needs money to develop and India has its own fighters to develop.
So India said goodbye to Russian fighters.

Blessing in disguise.
 
Only thing Russia can offer is a ssn design and 200 mw nuclear reactor and space technologies . I dont think, they have much to offer other than these. THEY havent invested in anything for a longtime.
We should develop our own SSN

190MW is possible by barc
 
We should go for Su 75, if Russia manages to rollout and conduct first flight of the plane before 2027, since it's a SEF- it can easily complement AMCA when the later would be ready( mk1- 2033 IOC).

Pak already has 2 options, and they might induct J35 soon. We can't afford to lose the lead to them.

And Idk from where some fag0ts have the confidence to say that Rafales are better than J20s.- If u go on hearing western propaganda, u will end up having this superiority complex too. As of now, I still don't know on what basis is Rafale better than J20
 
Forget AMCA, Tejas Mk2 will take till 2030 to ENTER production. And I am being very very optimistic here.

AMCA can only be expected to ENTER production post 2035 best case or 2040 worst case. Till that time, IAF will have a 5th gen fighter vacuum. While China will have a 300+ fleet of matured 5th gen fighters (if not more) and even P!6stan will BEG and GET 50-60 5th gen fighters (Chinese).

Is India OK with this HUGE CAPABILITY GAP?
 
Only Time will tell ,But once Russia start inducting Su-57 and AMCA have time to become mature platform so India can think about it Su-57 is better platform than Su-75. India may buy 3 to 4 sqadron of Su-57.
 
What Russia only can do make a production ready Model of Su-75 by 2025 and offer it in MRCA tender in place of MIG-35 or Su-35.. But it is very unlikely
 

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