Bro the problem is u r taking an optimistic timeline of LCA mk2 but not of MRFA. Alright let me give u an optimistic timeline of MRFA. This year only IAF moves the AoN, negotiations takes a year and we move forward to production of let's say just 10 MRFA / year but the line isn't established so we get imported 2 sq. of winners. That's it now!? Right!? Lala land sounds so cool
Are we not importing tons for LCA!? Ur desi fighter is less indigenous than Su 30. I would rather say Su 30 mki is our fighter just like how JF17 is PAC fighter ( if u acknowledge the conditions of Mki deal)
True, also, Macron’s statement of deployment of NATO personnel in Ukraine has ruined everything, every single day day passes by Macron becomes TOAD of World, “ frogs get into trouble by their mouth, Frogs in a pond croak incessantly soon after rains, thus loudly announcing their presence (to snakes) and inviting their own destiny (by getting consumed by snakes).“, it is going to affect the sale of Rafale.
I think repeat order will exclude €1.8 billions for ISE and infrastructure,training cost that is already developed for two squadrons each at ambala and Hashimara .
indigeous content of LCA Mk1A is more than 60% and will go to 70% after radars, etc are ready for mass production. Sukhoi is not indigenous at all. Most parts are imported, the design is russian. Reason why JF17 is considered pakis even though most parts are chinese or russian because it is designed by pakistan.
do you know that right now rafale production is less than 15 jets a year, when first production started in 1997? There is currently an order backlog of over 220 jets. So imagine what would happen when India places order for 114 jets. Most parts would have to be imported including engine. Just imagine how much later those parts deliveries will happen. This in contrast to Indian jets. Indian jets dont have any other orders, so entire production line will work for india only. If 10 billion dollar investment is made, production can easily be upgraded to over 20 a year in 5 years, this is because HAL will gove orders to its suppliers who will inturn ramp up their own production, thus it takes time. The crucial thing for all this is that orders need to be placed.
Because India has a public Enterprise named HAL.
F15ex best option for twin engine of Eurofighter as complimentary fighter with rafale like NATO members are doing
Nah if we buy more of same unit it'll need more manpower, secure supply chain, maintenance and facilities plus more.... Why exclude a budget to cheapout your defense needs🤔🧐🤭
We don’t know how much it is going to cost.
Because all people who are familiar with DRDO and ADA know that it is one thing to claim to claim everything is ready (when in fact they are not) and then when it comes to delivery dates, come up with all sorts of excuses. Their shady history and messed up track record stand as testimony to their capabilities!
Bro get the facts, JF 17 is a Chinese design, plane but a Pakistani effort.
Pakistan has F-16 and JF-17 design is inspired by that. If you look at chinese air force, they dont have any jets that look like that. Chinese jet design philosophy is more soviet and russian, while Indian jet design philosophy is french.
lol, sukhois have russian and israeli radar, and most other avionics are also either russian or israeli. the 2 engines are also russian. Most of the weapons used are also russian or israeli. Yet you call it 80% indigenous in few years???? How?
Those Russian parts are being manufactured with indigenous content. A lot of Russian parts are replaced by indigenous parts.
Chinese mixed the mig 21 and IAI design, it's already known bro.... update urself.
They will be 50% indigenous....just as I said stop having optimistic thoughts about indigenous program and pessimistic thoughts about MRFA
from what I have seen, right now 50% parts are indian, while it will be increased to 60% for future order of 12 units.
And 78% after upgrade so......it soon would be more Indian then Russian....the Russian parts would be son gone.
that upgrade is not even on paper right now, it is just a theory. There are no agreements yet.
DAC approved the upgrade already.
that was an acceptance of necessity. Right now the proposal itself is not ready- what stuff will be upgraded, what will be replaced etc. Permission of russia will also need to be taken. AoN means that the process can begin. Also the package is for 84 aircraft, whiich is a fraction of our sukhois.
What I meant to say is Su30 is already on its way to be 80% indigenous while I see no sign of LCA.
LCA is also going that way, now we have the engines for it also being made in India with 80% ToT. same cant be said for russian engines for Su-30
F-15 is basically a missile truck and proly replaced with (more capable & cheaper) UCAVs ( controlled remotely or by F-35 or 22) in ~15 years.
median RCS is ~0.5m while J-20 is 0.2. 2.5x better than clean Raffale. Izdelye 30 has serrated nozzle and flat being tested too ( thats more likely for the S-70 okhotnik drone)
To compensate it RCS the Russian are integrating plasma stealth... And Chinese engineer plus it's scientist proven that this is successful... The only factor is the different design approach... IMHO that's why we see Russian powering up it's new engine design as power resource of it's future upgraded part in su57.... All most of it's major design problem is being solve from su75 IF they launch it's prototype next year
Yeah we waste time for too many tom foolery bickering and not getting the best decision at the current table... Modi's government is deep rooted of bureaucracy
