Russia Courts India with Su-75 Checkmate Amid MiG-29 Replacement Push

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In a bid to replace India's aging MiG-29 fleet, Russia has intensified its efforts to attract India's interest in its Su-75 Checkmate light fighter jet. The single-engine, lightweight stealth fighter, unveiled in 2021, is being positioned as the ideal successor to the MiG-29s, which India and several other nations are looking to replace.

Russia is particularly focused on India, a long-standing partner with a pressing need to upgrade its fighter jet fleet. A 2021 promotional video for the Checkmate, featuring pilots from potential buyer countries, including India, underscored Russia's strategic marketing approach.

Despite Russia's aggressive sales pitch, India has yet to commit to the Su-75. Several factors might be influencing India's cautious stance. The absence of a functional prototype is a key concern. While Russia claims a 2025 maiden flight for the redesigned Su-75, India may prefer a fighter jet with a proven track record.

Moreover, India is actively pursuing its own indigenous solution, the Tejas MkII, specifically designed to replace its MiG-29, Mirage-2000, and Jaguar fleets. This program aims to fulfill India's requirement for nearly 200 new fighter jets, potentially offering greater long-term benefits in terms of self-reliance and technology transfer.

Russia's renewed push to involve India likely stems from the lack of confirmed international buyers for the Checkmate program. High-profile marketing tactics, such as featuring pilots from potential buyer nations in promotional videos, highlight Russia's eagerness to secure partnerships.

Russia is offering the Checkmate at an attractive price point of $30-35 million per unit, with a cost per flight hour projected to be significantly lower than the Lockheed Martin F-35. The Su-75 boasts impressive specifications, with a designed maximum speed of Mach 1.8, a range of 2,800 km, and a maximum takeoff weight of 26,000 kg.

However, India's commitment to its indigenous defense programs, including the Tejas MkII and the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), might influence its decision on the Su-75. With the Tejas MkII expected to replace a significant portion of its fighter fleet by 2035, and the AMCA slated to replace older Su-30MKI squadrons from 2040 onwards, India may prioritize self-reliance and domestic technological development.

While Russia's Su-75 Checkmate offers an attractive proposition on paper, India's decision will likely hinge on a careful evaluation of its operational capabilities, cost-effectiveness, and alignment with its long-term strategic objectives.
 
Nope. The AL-51 engine is planned for the Su-57M, which has been on hiatus / very slow progress since 2022. The Su-57Es that Russia uses have the AL-41F1 engine.
Nope the jet's that were inducted recently were SU-57M with this AL-51F1 engine, it was a typo SU-57E is export variant.
 
It is a great ship that secures India’s western shore, what is wrong with that, you need Vikramaditya to secure French Islands or the mainland France instead.
Of course an enemy of India won’t remember it. But India was conned by Russia with this ship.
 
Of course an enemy of India won’t remember it. But India was conned by Russia with this ship.
Foreign enemies doesn't understand India, Indians know how good their carrier is, Frenchie's doesn't have a say on Indian matters.
 
Foreign enemies doesn't understand India, Indians know how good their carrier is, Frenchie's doesn't have a say on Indian matters.
That’s why you don’t have a say as a self confessed enemy of India. CAG ok the other hand has revealed the truth on record.
 
Malaysia will very much care about CAATSA, unlike India. Oh, and sites like Bulgarian Military are generally very speculative. I'd recommend you find additional, trustworthy sources to back that up. Heck, even Eurasian Times is a far better source than Bulgarian Military is. Just today, they (Bulgarian Military) released an article saying that the Tejas Mk 2 trumps the Su-75, so if you want to lend that credence, do so in both articles.

The RMAF is merely proposing the Su-57 as a new aircraft. Moreover, this new aircraft is planned to replace the F-18D and Hawk 208s rather than the Su-30MKMs. Get better sources next time rather than random news articles from local portals.
If you are under delusion and favor one product and talk for it here (you know which product I am talking about), you won't hear or believe what other's say, we members of this forum here think about India getting the latest product for the best price possible irrespective of where the product originates from, we don’t favor one particular Countries product, if we get F35 we will welcome with open hands and not talk about one product from that one Country all the time .
 
If you are under delusion and favor one product and talk for it here (you know which product I am talking about), you won't hear or believe what other's say, we members of this forum here think about India getting the latest product for the best price possible irrespective of where the product originates from, we don’t favor one particular Countries product, if we get F35 we will welcome with open hands and not talk about one product from that one Country all the time .
I am not favouring any product. I am simply not jumping the gun as you are. An Expression of Interest is not the same as an order.
 
Nope the jet's that were inducted recently were SU-57M with this AL-51F1 engine, it was a typo SU-57E is export variant.
Boss, while Russia has recently inducted a batch of Su-57s, it is not clear whether these are Su-57Ms. As per the article you shared, UAC will supply SU-57Ms this year, but whether or not it has been done already is not clear. That said, I concede to your point that the AL-51 must be mostly ready. Regardless, that in itself doesn't mean the Su-75 is also mostly ready.
 
Boss, while Russia has recently inducted a batch of Su-57s, it is not clear whether these are Su-57Ms. As per the article you shared, UAC will supply SU-57Ms this year, but whether or not it has been done already is not clear. That said, I concede to your point that the AL-51 must be mostly ready. Regardless, that in itself doesn't mean the Su-75 is also mostly ready.
Boss, SU-75 shares 90% of the components from SU-57 including engine, in that case then SU-75 is pretty much ready. there are many sources that say SU-57M variant is already inducted, even folks from IAF made a trip to Russia to see it working, they are very interested for this stealth engine only. and this is the reason why rumors started swirling that India is back into FGFA, this news was in many western news media also.
 
I am not favouring any product. I am simply not jumping the gun as you are. An Expression of Interest is not the same as an order.
I read many articles and came to the conclusion like what others do, there is no way to fly to Russia and go to United factory or Saturn plant to see it in person to believe.
 
The Su-57 has been tested in Ukraine and Syria, but that testing has been more along the lines of "Can it fly and shoot? Are we sure it doesn't crash?".

Oh, and the Su-75 is not a single-engined version of the Su-57. Aircraft design doesn't work that way.
Then we shouldn't be sure of any product that we make.
 
Vikramaditya is a good ship, no doubt. However, her acquisition is an entire saga by itself, and is one where both parties (Russia and India) end up looking bad.
Every deal has a problem, who knows which side caused this problem.
 
What Chinese will using their advance weapons to scare us and slice our land little by little, until we have powerful weapons to scare them we can't do much.
Again they can’t do that because it wouldn’t work. Our troops have fortified their positions even more now and we have the same weapons that they have as well ranging from guns, machine guns, grenades, ATGM, rocket launcher, ATGM, SAM, artillery, mortars, tanks, IFV, drones, jets, helicopters, MBRLS etc. So they can’t even salami slice us as long as we keep a strong defence along the border which we are. China would take heavy losses which they can’t afford to.
 
Remember INS Vikramaditya?
Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta indicated that the establishment had spent too much time and effort on the deal for any thought of pulling out at this stage.

He also indicated that the Gorshkov would very much be a part of the navy's dream of operating three aircraft carriers by 2020.

Interestingly, despite the major audit indictment on the deal, the navy chief did not think the price arrived at was too high.
 
Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta indicated that the establishment had spent too much time and effort on the deal for any thought of pulling out at this stage.

He also indicated that the Gorshkov would very much be a part of the navy's dream of operating three aircraft carriers by 2020.

Interestingly, despite the major audit indictment on the deal, the navy chief did not think the price arrived at was too high.
That’s irrelevant. Point here is that Russia quoted a fake price and then jacked it up once we were all in. So their cheating is what matters. Not everyone is like France after all who deliver amazing equipment at the lowest price and on time.
 
its Indian indian navy fault to acquired 30 year old used aircraft carrier buy the new ones and then complain
Navy Chief Admiral Suresh Mehtaon Thursday defended the price being paid by India for the warship.
"I can't comment on the CAG. But you all are defence analysts, can you get me an aircraft carrier for less than $2 billion? If you can, I am going to sign a cheque right now," Mehta told reporters on the sidelines of the 'Naval Self Reliance Seminar' organized by CII.

 
That’s irrelevant. Point here is that Russia quoted a fake price and then jacked it up once we were all in. So their cheating is what matters. Not everyone is like France after all who deliver amazing equipment at the lowest price and on time.
Then you accept that same happened with your Frenchie Rafale.
 
I read many articles and came to the conclusion like what others do, there is no way to fly to Russia and go to United factory or Saturn plant to see it in person to believe.
Yes, but your conclusion is incorrect. Malaysia has not ordered Su-57, it is simply exploring the possibility of replacing its aging fighters, and not necessarily with the Felon.
 
Yes, but your conclusion is incorrect. Malaysia has not ordered Su-57, it is simply exploring the possibility of replacing its aging fighters, and not necessarily with the Felon.
You are incorrect, I also read many articles saying this, it seems RMAF told their wish of procuring 1 squadron of 5th gen jet especially Su-57 to the Malaysian Government and they even went to Russia to evaluate it, the latest news is GOVT already approved funding for the procurement and they are supposed to receive the jets starting 2035.
 
Unlike the Rafale, the Su-75 doesn't actually exist. Oh, and chances are Russia will want any potential customer(s) to fund the project. So, you do that, and your per unit cost quite possibly doubles yet again, with little guarantee of success.
see Russia will make this jet as they have required tech they don't have to work on any field for mastering of tech
 
And 1/9th the price of 4th gen Rafale that has old school 3rd gen engine.
They said it's a cheap 5gen that is purpose built.... So we should assume that's is cheap that's why it'll have cheap reliable redesign legacy system to be cheaper
 
yes , IAF is more Interested in buying old Fighters & upgrading old jets Jaguar fleet Instead at Half price of old Qatari Mirage-2000 jet Brand New 5th Gen Su-75 is on offer.
Does it really exist. Can Russia produce new ones....with Sanctions ???
 

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